Proposal: Main Pieces: Chris Kreider for Christian Dvorak or Nick Schmaltz

[Gospel of Prospal]

Not a one-for-one deal, but I'm wondering if this basic framework makes sense. Perhaps reuniting Kreider and Stepan could get them both going. Meanwhile, the Coyotes have pretty decent C depth and the Rangers are *still* in search of a definite answer at 2C so a young C like Schmaltz or Dvorak may make sense.




Plus, Dvorak reminds me of one of my favorite (recent) Rangers in Radek Dvorak and Schmaltz is just fun to say

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[Tad Mikowski]

We just signed both to extensions. Neither are available i would think

 

[Joel Ward]

Both are 5 years younger and have 5-6 years of term at reasonable-good rates. I don't think Kreider is the centerpiece of any deal that would bring them to New York.

 

[txw]

Dvorak and Schmaltz are not up for grabs, especially if Kreider is the opening piece.

 

[Djp]

you arent going to trade any 1 yr Rental for someone with 5+ yrs of term left on a contract who is 5+ yrs younger

 

[rt]

Makes as much sense for the Coyotes as Hjalmarsson for Skjei would make for the Rangers.

 

[Roman Princ]

That's a terrible deal

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Schmatlz is worth certainly more than a 28 year old, non extended Chris Kreider, especially with Schmaltz who has more skill, plays a more important position, cost controlled for longer, and already has career highs that are right on kreiders career highs and Schmaltz isnt even in his prime yet

 

[super6646]

Makes as much sense for the Coyotes as Hjalmarsson for Skjei would make for the Rangers.

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

is this a joke?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

No doubt. A run of the mil 2nd pairing defenseman is definitely more valuable than guys like Panarin, Zibanejad, Trouba, Kakko, etc.....

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Makes as much sense for the Coyotes as Hjalmarsson for Skjei would make for the Rangers.

while still not in our favor, this is actually not as bad of a deal as you make it seem.

We are loaded with LD prospects, and Skjei has definitely not lived up to his contract so far.

 

[ElLeetch]

Makes as much sense for the Coyotes as Hjalmarsson for Skjei would make for the Rangers.

There are contexts for that which might make sense for the Rangers.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Stopped reading after « Radek Dvorak » is one of my fave « recent » Rangers, good grief man

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Kreider for Arizona 1st at the deadline if they are in a playoff position maybe, a young cost controlled top 6 player in return, not a chance

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Makes as much sense for the Coyotes as Hjalmarsson for Skjei would make for the Rangers.

That would make plenty of sense for the Rangers. Hjalmarsson is very good, Skjei isn’t.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

I think I need glasses, I couldn't have read that correctly, just no

 

[JT Kreider]

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

He is probably not even in the top 10.

In no particular order: Kakko, Trouba, Shestyorkin, Kravstov, KA Miller, Zibanejad, Panarin, Fox are our untouchables. With Lias, Chytil and Tony D also being higher on the pecking order, not untouchable per se but off the table unless we'd get a stupid overpayment too good to say no to offer to move them. And I feel like I'm missing someone too.

Skjei has been a big disappointment since getting his contract which was an overpyament to begin with. I'd have no problem trading him for a solid young center with 2nd line upside but I dont even think with his current value he'd be able to return that.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I think I need glasses, I couldn't have read that correctly, just no[/QUOTE

Untouchable as in we’ll Need him for that Seattle trade, there is a bit of wisdom for all the wrong reasons

 

[JT Kreider]

As for the OP, you're overrating Kreider a bit here if you expect him to land us one of Schmaltz or Dvorak.

I think we need to already start lowering our expectations for the Kreider return. It's going to be a disappointment; they always are.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

What about something around Buchnevich for Dvorak/Schmaltz?

 

[super6646]

I think I need glasses, I couldn't have read that correctly, just no

Hell yes.

 

[AZviaNJ]

This is way more offensive. Skjei is, IMO, the most untouchable piece on the Rangers.

Good to know, we'll settle for a secondary piece like Kakko or Trouba

 

[Mick Jagr]

I mean... you could probably have Stepan back, but you aren't getting Dvorak.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

What about something around Buchnevich for Dvorak/Schmaltz?

thats a large downgrade no matter how you look at it from the Coyotes perspective without a big add to buchnevich. Buchnevich is still trying to put together a full season of solid production and being a mid 40 pt production type player is not worth the Coyotes time for one of Dvorak or Schmaltz, both who are actually younger than Buchnevich. again, they are also natural centers, Buchnevich isnt