Prospect Info: Magua's 2018 NHL Pseudo Draft Guide

[LegionOfDoom91]

Dominik Bokk is just a poor man's Radek Bonk, namewise anyway.

I was thinking he was the guy that Lindros almost killed for a second there but it was Andreas Dackell.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

I was literally about to make a post, but thank you kindly, Striiker.

LMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Patrick Division]

I must echo what others have said...Great job and thank you for your hard work!!

 

[Larry44]

I must echo what others have said...Great job and thank you for your hard work!!

Ditto for me, much appreciated. So, Magua, Kravtsov it is for me at 14 (if we keep it).

 

[Canucks LB]

I was literally about to make a post, but thank you kindly, Striiker.

What is he saying

 

[Magua]

What is he saying

Oh you know, just Ken Bone stuff.

He was a guy who got Internet famous after a Presidential debate last election for being this wholesome likable guy. Then he did a Reddit AMA and used his actual Reddit, and it turned out he posted on a ton of kinky subreddits and was kind of pervy.

 

[Flyotes]

It was a good gif post. Multi-referential. Ken Bone. Reddit browsing history. Milkshake duck. Thumbs up. haha.

 

[landsbergfan]

great job - #1 fan

 

[Canucks LB]

What is he saying

Anybody what is he saying

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I forget where I saw it but I randomly came across this article that was from some girl who caught her boyfriend trolling on reddit. He left his iPad with his account open & that’s how she caught him. It was a seriously article but I read like two paragraphs & couldn’t stop laughing thinking about that South Park episode.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Tks for the great read OP (i'm only down to the H's), those are some in depth write-ups .

I don't want to be the guy who just points out negatives/disagreements, but how you came to the conclusion that Hughes has a better shot than Boqvist is really questionable to me.

I had to go back to the write up on Boqvist- his shot is "arm flinging" ? I see Boqvist's shot as being more stick whippy- than arm flingy. It's a great wrist shot- reminds me a little of Pettersson's wrist shot. I do question how that's going to work at the nhl level from the defence position though. I'd say the same for Hughes, who's wrister goals always seem to be within 15 feet of the net.

I will consider I may have been severely under-rating Hughes' shot. No question on Hughes looking like a guaranteed #1 PP qb. The idea of him feeding the puck to Boeser and Pettersson in a couple/few years would give me great hope should the Canucks draft him. Much more so than a d-man with a great shot.

 

[briererocks]

Would we trade #14 + #19 + #50 to move up to 7 to grab Dobson if he was still available?

 

[Stizzle]

Would we trade #14 + #19 + #50 to move up to 7 to grab Dobson if he was still available?

No.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I would rather take swings at 2 defensemen between 14, 19, and 50 than trade up for one (not including Dahlin of course).

 

[briererocks]

I would rather take swings at 2 defensemen between 14, 19, and 50 than trade up for one (not including Dahlin of course).

The flyers don't need top 6 wingers badly . I would rather add a good rhd prospect. Their are incredibly valuable trade chips and very valuable to the team.

I think with Allison, lacynzki vorobyov, rubtsov, etc . The flyers have plenty of good bottom 6 forwards prospects. They also have some good top 6 prospects like frost and ratcliffe. I think they emphasis should be on getting one good D then adding 3 or 4 more prospects to an already very deep prospect pool. If dobson is available I would try to trade up to grab him.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Defensemen isn’t like centers. It’s not nearly uncommon to land a top pairing caliber one outside of the top 5-10 range.

 

[Rebels57]

The flyers don't need top 6 wingers badly . I would rather add a good rhd prospect. Their are incredibly valuable trade chips and very valuable to the team.

I think with Allison, lacynzki vorobyov, rubtsov, etc . The flyers have plenty of good bottom 6 forwards prospects. They also have some good top 6 prospects like frost and ratcliffe. I think they emphasis should be on getting one good D then adding 3 or 4 more prospects to an already very deep prospect pool. If dobson is available I would try to trade up to grab him.

We dont have a single Elite winger prospect in the system and our 2 best wingers are around 30 years old. Drafting 1 or 2 as their eventual replacements and to support TK and Oskar is pretty important.

 

[FLYguy3911]

The flyers don't need top 6 wingers badly . I would rather add a good rhd prospect. Their are incredibly valuable trade chips and very valuable to the team.

I think with Allison, lacynzki vorobyov, rubtsov, etc . The flyers have plenty of good bottom 6 forwards prospects. They also have some good top 6 prospects like frost and ratcliffe. I think they emphasis should be on getting one good D then adding 3 or 4 more prospects to an already very deep prospect pool. If dobson is available I would try to trade up to grab him.

I don't get what you are trying to say. They have good young defensemen too and they can add to that this weekend.

I don't believe in top 6 prospects and bottom 6 prospects either (and I would disagree with some of your classifications).

 

[briererocks]

Defensemen isn’t like centers. It’s not nearly uncommon to land a top pairing caliber one outside of the top 5-10 range.

True but it's becoming more unusual. Usually smaller d can be gotten in the second round but big d that can skate and have offensive sense will always go top 10. I'm trust the flyers scouts but I would rather go for quality over quantity; and D over a winger.

I think giroux will be elite winger for the next 4 years; same with voracek who for some reason does not get enough respect; konen is elite for the next 10 years. We have some unheralded winger prospects who can become top 6 like strome . I would rather take the D then try to add a potential 50 or 60 point winger .

 

[Rebels57]

I don't get what you are trying to say. They have good young defensemen too and they can add to that this weekend.

I don't believe in top 6 prospects and bottom 6 prospects either (and I would disagree with some of your classifications).

Yeah you need 3 good lines with 6 good wingers nowadays.

 

[Magua]

I don't want to be the guy who just points out negatives/disagreements, but how you came to the conclusion that Hughes has a better shot than Boqvist is really questionable to me.

I had to go back to the write up on Boqvist- his shot is "arm flinging" ? I see Boqvist's shot as being more stick whippy- than arm flingy. It's a great wrist shot- reminds me a little of Pettersson's wrist shot. I do question how that's going to work at the nhl level from the defence position though. I'd say the same for Hughes, who's wrister goals always seem to be within 15 feet of the net.

I will consider I may have been severely under-rating Hughes' shot. No question on Hughes looking like a guaranteed #1 PP qb. The idea of him feeding the puck to Boeser and Pettersson in a couple/few years would give me great hope should the Canucks draft him. Much more so than a d-man with a great shot.

(@Superlative Soup too)

I maybe could've worded it better. I think Boqvist has a good wrist shot of course (similar level to Hughes). He POSITIONS himself well too to shoot close, which is very important. I think Quinn has a better slap shot (and is adept at taking slap shots moving laterally w/ the puck) and one timer; I don't think Boqvist is as strong there. Quinn's release on all his shots is so fast. And he's also good at positioning himself in tight and wiring it. Boqvist doesn't always "fling" his shot, but he can have a habit of taking really off balance shots that are too much arm flinging, instead of using momentum and lower body and wrists and stuff. Sometimes not at great times either, like he could work the cycle more. I just feel Quinn is a bit more intuitive. It's more a critique of how he uses his shot than his actual form when set up.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

True but it's becoming more unusual. Usually smaller d can be gotten in the second round but big d that can skate and have offensive sense will always go top 10. I'm trust the flyers scouts but I would rather go for quality over quantity; and D over a winger.

Not really. The recent drafts haven’t played out enough to make that conclusion just yet. There’s going to be defensemen who overshoot their projections just like there will be ones that undershoot it. Defensemen are still more volatile than forwards.

 

[Tripod]

We dont have a single Elite winger prospect in the system and our 2 best wingers are around 30 years old. Drafting 1 or 2 as their eventual replacements and to support TK and Oskar is pretty important.

But one is signed for 6 years, the other for 4 and people likely will want him re-signed.

But it is true, we are now starting to draft guys to possibly replace top guys in 4 years. Maybe a Dman in case we lose one in expansion or Ghost before his contract ends. A winger for maybe Giroux or Jake. A C for maybe Couts.

We are actually finally in a spot where we are ok depth wise everywhere. But we do need to hopefully add elite or higher end guys everywhere. Even on D, Myers is the last piece really and adding a D with top pairing upside to develop for 2-3 years is going to be needed. I guess that happens when guys start to graduate.

 

[Rebels57]

But one is signed for 6 years, the other for 4 and people likely will want him re-signed.

But it is true, we are now starting to draft guys to possibly replace top guys in 4 years. Maybe a Dman in case we lose one in expansion or Ghost before his contract ends. A winger for maybe Giroux or Jake. A C for maybe Couts.

We are actually finally in a spot where we are ok depth wise everywhere. But we do need to hopefully add elite or higher end guys everywhere. Even on D, Myers is the last piece really and adding a D with top pairing upside to develop for 2-3 years is going to be needed. I guess that happens when guys start to graduate.

A guy like Farabee or Kravstov are probably 2 years away at least and then they can start off at the bottom of the lineup and work their way up as Giroux and Voracek age. Its a good situation.

I think back to Giroux being drafted in 2006, making the team halfway through the 08-09 season, then taking over as 1C in 2011.

 

[Tripod]

A guy like Farabee or Kravstov are probably 2 years away at least and then they can start off at the bottom of the lineup and work their way up as Giroux and Voracek age. Its a good situation.

I think back to Giroux being drafted in 2006, making the team halfway through the 08-09 season, then taking over as 1C in 2011.

Well yeah because in realty, Ratcliffe and Allison "should" be ahead of whoever we take really as having the inside track on the 3rd line. Or even 2nd line should Lindblom falter.

We have a ton of other forwards too that still have that mid 6 upside. But as we both have said, we can use the high end/elite guys on the wings for prospects. And I add that we need one on D too.