LW Andreas Johnson - Frolunda, SHL (2013, 202nd, TOR)

Systemfel · Dec 4, 2015

WTFMAN99 said:
In the event he came over and played in the AHL for us this season after the SHL was over, it wouldn't effect his ELC unless he played 10 games in the NHL right? Or does he still burn a year off his contract because we allowed him to play in Sweden? Not quite sure on this stuff when it comes to European players.

The contract is already in effect, since he's not junior-aged.

WTFMAN99 · Dec 4, 2015

Systemfel said:
The contract is already in effect, since he's not junior-aged.

Alright so if he doesn't head over to the World Championships after his SHL season, it makes the most sense to actually put him in the AHL, let him get adjusted to the smaller ice etc provided he isn't injured or anything.

Thank you for the clarification.

LeafChief · Dec 4, 2015

What month does the Swedish season typically end?

Maplebeasts · Dec 4, 2015

LeafGeek said:
What month does the Swedish season typically end?

March

LeafChief · Dec 4, 2015

Maplebeasts said:
March

Is Johnson a candidate for the World Championships or is there a chance we see him with the Marlies for the playoffs?

Bravid Nonahan · Dec 4, 2015

I wonder if this guy could be the future Christian Dvorak for Mitch Marner. The kid owns a heck of a shot

figure · Dec 4, 2015

Bravid Nonahan said:
I wonder if this guy could be the future Christian Dvorak for Mitch Marner. The kid owns a heck of a shot

They are both on the smaller side, I agree the kid can finish and that is exactly the type of player we need with Marner (hello Laine), but it will be many many years before we see these two on the same line in the NHL.

Maplebeasts · Dec 5, 2015

LeafGeek said:
Is Johnson a candidate for the World Championships or is there a chance we see him with the Marlies for the playoffs?

Well I'm not too sure how he compares or ranks for Swedish players in the SHL. I know I'd like to see him help the Marlies in their playoff run and get a bit of experience on small ice.

Canada4Gold · Dec 5, 2015

Maplebeasts said:
Well I'm not too sure how he compares or ranks for Swedish players in the SHL. I know I'd like to see him help the Marlies in their playoff run and get a bit of experience on small ice.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=SHL&season=2015&sort=nation&nation=1&name=Sweden

and he ranks first in points among U24 players

bobermay · Dec 5, 2015

Canada4Gold said:
http://www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=SHL&season=2015&sort=nation&nation=1&name=Sweden

and he ranks first in points among U24 players

Interesting that he's tied with Spencer Abbott in scoring, an ex PPG Toronto Marlie!

Cor · Dec 5, 2015

figure said:
They are both on the smaller side, I agree the kid can finish and that is exactly the type of player we need with Marner (hello Laine), but it will be many many years before we see these two on the same line in the NHL.

Johnson very well may be in our top 9 next season. Marner likely as well.

If not, both will be in the lineup in the 17-18 season. And quite frankly, they are very good fits for each others games. So it's very possible they get paired up together.

So define "many many years". Because it will be 1, 2 max.

LeafGm · Dec 5, 2015

Systemfel said:
Actually, the Leafs would've had to offer him back to FrÃ¶lunda if he hadn't made the NHL roster this year, due to these factors: age (under 22), draft status (not a 1st round pick), and contract (he was signed for 15-16 with FrÃ¶lunda).

FrÃ¶lunda could've recalled Tom Nilsson in 2014 due to the same rules, but chose not to.

Thanks for the correction.

A question on this rule then: Oliver Kylington is under-22 and not a first round pick, but he's playing in the AHL this year. Is that solely because he was a free agent? Or did AIK, like Frolunda with Nilsson, have to decide to let him go?

In other words, does the SHL/NHL transfer agreement dictate that any under-22 player picked outside of the first round can't play in the AHL, regardless of their contract status?

VictorLustig · Dec 5, 2015

LeafGm said:
Thanks for the correction.

A question on this rule then: Oliver Kylington is under-22 and not a first round pick, but he's playing in the AHL this year. Is that solely because he was a free agent? Or did AIK, like Frolunda with Nilsson, have to decide to let him go?

In other words, does the SHL/NHL transfer agreement dictate that any under-22 player picked outside of the first round can't play in the AHL, regardless of their contract status?

AIK let him go.

Systemfel · Dec 6, 2015

LeafGm said:
A question on this rule then: Oliver Kylington is under-22 and not a first round pick, but he's playing in the AHL this year. Is that solely because he was a free agent? Or did AIK, like Frolunda with Nilsson, have to decide to let him go?

In other words, does the SHL/NHL transfer agreement dictate that any under-22 player picked outside of the first round can't play in the AHL, regardless of their contract status?

No, contract status matters. Like Huffman said, Kylington wasn't a free agent either, he signed with AIK on May 13.

BigWilly · Dec 12, 2015

Johnson has been doing phenomenal in the SHL this year (statistically).

Can any SHL fans comment on what we may expect out of him next year in NA? Some comparables maybe? (Not NHL comps, I mean Swedish players who have come over)

EK47 · Dec 12, 2015

BigWilly said:
Johnson has been doing phenomenal in the SHL this year (statistically).

Can any SHL fans comment on what we may expect out of him next year in NA? Some comparables maybe? (Not NHL comps, I mean Swedish players who have come over)

Best case scenario is somewhere along Gus Nyqvist I think.

BigWilly · Dec 12, 2015

EK47 said:
Best case scenario is somewhere along Gus Nyqvist I think.

That'd be sweet, but I don't think that Andreas has that sort of speed and possession to his game.

Unless you're talking about impact?

Mad Brills* · Dec 12, 2015

tatar?

Maplebeasts · Dec 12, 2015

Mad Brills said:
tatar?

He doesn't really play like either of Tatar or Nyquist though. Nyquist is much more reliant on his speed to create offense, and Tatar is more rounded offensively. Tatar is less of a sniper than Johnson and relies a little more on play making and high IQ plays to create offense. Johnson I see as more of a finisher of plays than anything else.

Byron Bitz · Dec 12, 2015

When i watch him he reminds me of Pat Verbeek

Shwaguy* · Dec 12, 2015

I see a Mike Cammelleri type winger at his peak, if he makes it, that is.

45-60 points if he plays top 6 with a couple 30 goal seasons.

A bit Better numbers if a guy like Marner of Nylander become a star and he rides shotgun with one of them.

LV* · Dec 12, 2015

Timashov-Nylander-Johnson

swede lines

NarcoPolo · Dec 12, 2015

LV said:
Timashov-Nylander-Johnson

swede lines

That would be so swede

Maplebeasts · Dec 12, 2015

LV said:
Timashov-Nylander-Johnson

swede lines

I don't think Timashov and Nylander would be a great line. They both require the puck on their stick to really shine the offensive dynamos they are. Johnson is a match made in heaven for Nylander though, assuming he can play in a top 6 role in the NHL. It would be your classic elite play maker feeding a natural goal scorer situation.

EK47 · Dec 12, 2015

BigWilly said:
That'd be sweet, but I don't think that Andreas has that sort of speed and possession to his game.

Unless you're talking about impact?

He definitely has the speed he's more of a shooter than passer though.

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