LW Alexander Holtz - (2020, 7th, NJD)

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I feel like Raymond battles extremely well for pucks, be it on the forecheck or in the defensive zone. From what I've seen Raymond is actually better in that category than Holtz, and he's a better defensive player as well.

For the record: I think both are talented enough to be top-5 picks but I personally would pick Holtz over Raymond because I think he's the more mature and more complete player. From my own observations, I got a better feeling about Holtz. The way he communicates, the way he responds to feedback on the bench. Those things matter to me, and I think to scouts as well

 

[Llamamoto]

For the record: I think both are talented enough to be top-5 picks but I personally would pick Holtz over Raymond because I think he's the more mature and more complete player. From my own observations, I got a better feeling about Holtz. The way he communicates, the way he responds to feedback on the bench. Those things matter to me, and I think to scouts as well

I have to say I haven't paid any attention to the way they respond to feedback/communicate with teammates. Although I do think that Raymond is the smarter and more complete player.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I have to say I haven't paid any attention to the way they respond to feedback/communicate with teammates. Although I do think that Raymond is the smarter and more complete player.

I will say this: Raymond is the more crative player, the flashier one. He's the kid fans are excited to see. And he probably has the highest ceiling but not necessarily the high probability of reaching that ceiling. It's like Laine vs Aho in some ways in terms of how they are perceived by fans. It's hard to overlook the flashes of brilliance that Raymond shows, but in my opinion, Holtz has an easier route to the NHL because of the style of hockey he plays

 

[Plekatorz]

Sorry it’s french but the videos are interesting for people who wants to see him play

mobility

Offensive

Defensive

 

[Plekatorz]

Physicality


all from : Un as marqueur suédois comme cible au 9e rang | Analyse vidéo approfondie du jeu d'Alexander Holtz

 

[Mike27Devils]

Any news on how he has been playing in preseason games for his SHL club?

 

[theslatcher]

Any news on how he has been playing in preseason games for his SHL club?

He's played well, he's stronger, a little taller, willing to make more flashy plays, etc. Showcased the same attributes in the games he played for Sweden's U20 team.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Quack

 

[Favin]

I will say this: Raymond is the more crative player, the flashier one. He's the kid fans are excited to see. And he probably has the highest ceiling but not necessarily the high probability of reaching that ceiling. It's like Laine vs Aho in some ways in terms of how they are perceived by fans. It's hard to overlook the flashes of brilliance that Raymond shows, but in my opinion, Holtz has an easier route to the NHL because of the style of hockey he plays

Do you think Holtz gets to NHL quicker? I have always believed Raymond to be a year ahead of Holtz. Raymond arrives 2021, Holtz in 2022.

 

[57special]

Holtz is bigger and stronger, isn't he? That's part of the recipe for success in going to the NHL early.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Do you think Holtz gets to NHL quicker? I have always believed Raymond to be a year ahead of Holtz. Raymond arrives 2021, Holtz in 2022.

I feel Raymond will have early success but Holtz will have the more sustained success and longer career in the NHL. I may be wrong of course. It's all just opinions based on personal observations.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I know Holtz said he needed to work on his first three steps in skating from a stop. Anyone who's watched the preseason games, have you seen him improve this aspect of his skating?

 

[Just Linda]

I know Holtz said he needed to work on his first three steps in skating from a stop. Anyone who's watched the preseason games, have you seen him improve this aspect of his skating?

I've heard lots of people say they've seen an improvement but I don't feel it's gotten better. You can notice progress but not improvement yet imo.

It's only been like 5 months though that he's had to work, it'll probably be better to judge it further in a year.

 

[Prntscrn]

Scored the first and assisted the second today. I think you can see the highlights in the link even if you're outside of Sweden

”I min värld är han en topp tio-spelare”

 

[theslatcher]

Scored the first and assisted the second today. I think you can see the highlights in the link even if you're outside of Sweden

”I min värld är han en topp tio-spelare”

The goal and assist are also clipped here for easier access:

 

[BxDevilsFan]

Holtz I believe will be a very good player IMO. He's going to be a consistent 30-35 goal scorer. I was high on him after the WJC for the Devils but I think they end up drafting Marco Rossi at 7

 

[bsu]

I will say this: Raymond is the more crative player, the flashier one. He's the kid fans are excited to see. And he probably has the highest ceiling but not necessarily the high probability of reaching that ceiling. It's like Laine vs Aho in some ways in terms of how they are perceived by fans. It's hard to overlook the flashes of brilliance that Raymond shows, but in my opinion, Holtz has an easier route to the NHL because of the style of hockey he plays

I take Aho over Laine 10 of 10 times

I think holtz will be a similar player to Boeser, rather take a risk on a higher impact player like Raymond who's ceiling maybe someone like marner

 

[wetcoast]

I take Aho over Laine 10 of 10 times

I think holtz will be a similar player to Boeser, rather take a risk on a higher impact player like Raymond who's ceiling maybe someone like marner

Pretty much this for me as well but time will tell as prospects are still developing.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I take Aho over Laine 10 of 10 times

I think holtz will be a similar player to Boeser, rather take a risk on a higher impact player like Raymond who's ceiling maybe someone like marner

I don't know if Lucas Raymond's ceiling is as high as an 80-90 point winger. I think he'll be a very good player but I think that Holtz will have the more successful NHL career and an easier transition. Both I'd guess end up as 65-70ish point guys but Holtz ends up more impactful.

 

[Prntscrn]

Another. #44 obiously didn't want to get hit..

 

[bsu]

Another. #44 obiously didn't want to get hit..

Or screen goalie on a shooter

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Anaheim Ducks

 

[Gargyn]

Anyone who watches him, I see these recent highlights and notice it takes him a while to shoot the puck. I know he has time there but is he also able to get the puck off quickly when he doesn’t have the time?

 

[Artorius Horus T]

I still prefer Holtz over Raymond. Maybe i'm alone with this.

 

[Zaddy]

Anyone who watches him, I see these recent highlights and notice it takes him a while to shoot the puck. I know he has time there but is he also able to get the puck off quickly when he doesn’t have the time?

This is actually one of his weaknesses in my opinion. He's labelled as a great shooter, which to an extent he is, but he's not really quick at getting his shot off. And he's not great at getting shots off at high speed either. When he's static like that his shot is elite but in other situations he's not as dangerous. He'll always be dangerous on the man advantage but my question is how many goals he can score at 5v5 in the NHL.