Proposal: Lupul + Gardiner for Pavelski + Demers
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I have to ask, for what purpose would we acquire Joffrey Lupul?
That's not even a slam on the guy, but what problem in our lineup does he solve? He's a good point producer but it's not like we're hurting for those at the moment.
Pavelski plays in every phase of the game. Dealing him away for a winger opens up a really unnecessary hole.
That's not even a slam on the guy, but what problem in our lineup does he solve? He's a good point producer but it's not like we're hurting for those at the moment.
Pavelski plays in every phase of the game. Dealing him away for a winger opens up a really unnecessary hole.
Leidi J
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Really. And that's why the leafs seem so eager to trade him. Gimme a break. There is no such thing as a sure-fire anything unless you can see into the future. Either he is right now, or he isn't. You may think he could become that, that's your opinion. I personally see him as more of a #3/4 2nd pairing guy and that's just not enough. Both of us, as well as countless others, have our opinions based on our own observations. However, we know what Pavs is right now and he's worth a hell of a lot more than anything the Leafs could potentially offer.
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SactoShark
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It's nothing against the Leafs players in question, but if the Sharks were to deal Pavelski, something would have to be drastically wrong with the team. Like 20 game skid wrong. Pavelski is an awkward player – not a 1st round pedigree. But he just kills it every time he's on the ice. His worst game this season at even strength, he scores 2 goals and 2 assists. How do you deal that?
PacificOceanPotion
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Trade one of our best players, while we're playing incredibly well as a team.....9 games in.....classic.
dwood16
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Let's see.....
The Sharks are undefeated and seem like the team to beat at the moment.
They have good depth for the first time in a while.
That includes a mix of veteran, prime and youthful talented players.
They are scoring well, playing excellent defense and should steadily improve based on the inexperience of some of their roster.
They seem to have a great locker room ...maybe the best they've had in the last decade.
........So let's make a trade?
The Sharks are undefeated and seem like the team to beat at the moment.
They have good depth for the first time in a while.
That includes a mix of veteran, prime and youthful talented players.
They are scoring well, playing excellent defense and should steadily improve based on the inexperience of some of their roster.
They seem to have a great locker room ...maybe the best they've had in the last decade.
........So let's make a trade?
DuckEatinShark
GET ALL THE PPs!!!!
Leidi J
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No idea. Normally I would go in there and whip out all the numbers/metrics/stats that show them how wrong they are but I'm super sick right now and just don't have the energy to argue with them.
Maybe someone else feels like doing it... Jux? LOL
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Ya, that's more like what I have in mind.
Lupul is no worse than 3rd best winger the Leafs have, after Kessel, certainly, and Van Riemsdyck, possibly. I like him a lot more than most on here. Pavelski is just too important to our offensive balance to trade, however. The 3rd line regresses to mediocre, at best, without him, even with Torres in the lineup. I'll bet DW gets many offers for Pavs. The OP's offer isn't terrible value, frankly, but the Leafs would have to add.
If the Sharks decide that Demers will never by a PP QB on the #1 unit, and are fearful of Boyle leaving for more than they're willing to pay, someone like Gardiner would be an excellent target. He's still finding his game, but just turned 23 this summer. He was amazing at times in the playoffs against the Bruins last year. If Rielly pans out, the Leafs would probably be eager to trade him.
hockeyball
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I started to yesterday, but I am also sick and just don't care to argue with Leaf's fans right now, plus I've learned its just pointless with them. For the most part in this case they are being pretty reasonable though. Bunch of "Ya I guess it doesn't makes sense" etc.
I suspect the only trading the Sharks will do this year is to possibly clear salary and dump one of Sheppard, Burish or Brown (if he doesn't work out). At the deadline I could see Wilson going all in and picking up an offensive d-man, if none of our players maintain a big scoring rate or Boyle has lasting issues. Who that would be is a good question though, not really any Free Agents next year worth mentioning.
Why? It's impossible to embarrass yourself on the Trade board.
Throw up a Barkov-for-Jones proposal, just for a laugh. You'll fit right in!
Gene Parmesan
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Pavelski is a great player with a winning pedigree..**** draft pedigrees. Hes a gamer and does what it takes to win and produces at a high level. He has been the best Shark this year...which is saying something.
The Leafs have been eager to move lots of good players. When Randy Carlyle is pulling the front office strings, all logic gets thrown out.
Gene Parmesan
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rangerssharks414
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No thanks to this offer. Pavelski is one of the most important players on the Sharks, even though he's "only" their third line center.
I'm sure that Clarkson is someone Carlyle told Nonis to go after, so there's blood on his hands here too. He plays a prototypical Carlyle-style game.
Gene Parmesan
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I wouldn't mind Clarkson on the Sharks but at that term and price? get the **** outta here
Man that thread on the trade board is infuriating. I dont even care about being civil when people are posting fantasy stats 9 games into the season to justify lupul > pavs. Arrggghhh.
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