Lucas Raymond vs Moritz Seider

[J15]

The two clear front runners for the Calder so far. Who has had the better season up to this point?

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[cjeagle]

Seider because of the overall impact he has on his team. He plays in all kinds of situations and both special teams and has the most minutes(TOI) of any rookie in the league.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I’ve been more impressed with Raymond.

But if Seider can keep up anywhere near this level of offense he’ll win the Calder since he’s a defenseman

 

[Gurglesons]

Top paring D taking the Red Wings from the worst team in the league to a relative bubble team as a rookie versus the guy picking up points. I dunno seems pretty easy for me, but I'm a big downplayer of wingers.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Top paring D taking the Red Wings from the worst team in the league to a relative bubble team as a rookie versus the guy picking up points

I think they've both been extremely impressive but I don't understand this point here. Yes the Red Wings have improved, but they are both rookies that are contributing to this...one on the blue line and one on the top forward line.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think they've both been extremely impressive but I don't understand this point here. Yes the Red Wings have improved, but they are both rookies that are contributing to this...one on the blue line and one on the top forward line.

I think a top pairing defenseman has a bigger impact on the game than a top winger. Especially since Raymond is playing with the Wings two best forwards.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I think they've both been extremely impressive but I don't understand this point here. Yes the Red Wings have improved, but they are both rookies that are contributing to this...one on the blue line and one on the top forward line.

I agree with that. The way you worded it though was Seider was this rookie carrying the team out of the basement, while Raymond (no mention of being a rookie, let alone younger) was just getting points.

 

[elitepete]

Raymond is really good but Seider is “future best player at his position” level.