TV: Lord of the Rings - Amazon Reportedly Expected to Spend 1 Billion on TV Series
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The last two big budget Amazon shows The Expanse and Wheel of Time had underwhelming seasons and my common core complaint is that neither show had the season length to let their seasons unfold properly.
Considering The Expanse is amojh my favorite shows ever, I'm actually kind of pissed off at how that turned out.
I really hope this show justifies its budget.
Considering The Expanse is amojh my favorite shows ever, I'm actually kind of pissed off at how that turned out.
I really hope this show justifies its budget.
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With how incredible the trilogy of movies is it's hard to imagine another tv/movie adaption ever living up to that level of quality. Sometimes it's better to just leave things alone, but hey I hope they surprise me.
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Lost trust when they talked about wanting to splice in sex scenes. They want to turn this into Game of Thrones which Lord of the Rings is not. It's a bad start when they don't even understand the material.
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I don’t have an issue with that, but it would be weird at first, kind of like watching Leia and Han get it on besides just kissing.
If Star Wars added sex scenes my inner 10 year old self would find it weird, then my adult self would get over it and be like ya, ppl have sex when they like each other.
I guess it depends on the audience they want to target - kids and hard core LOTR fans, or just the 18+ demographic that don’t care much about the source material.
Amazon's 'Lord of the Rings' series finally has a name and plot - CNN
So this isn't actually "Lord of the Rings". It's a prequel. Tolkien wrote a fair amount about this time period but a lot of it was never finished. But there is plenty of new (i.e., not LoTR or Hobbit) material for Amazon to work with. Personally I hated the LoTR films, so I don't have much confidence in this but we'll see.
So this isn't actually "Lord of the Rings". It's a prequel. Tolkien wrote a fair amount about this time period but a lot of it was never finished. But there is plenty of new (i.e., not LoTR or Hobbit) material for Amazon to work with. Personally I hated the LoTR films, so I don't have much confidence in this but we'll see.
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Nah, it's just cringe when they sexualize kiddy stuff. I just watched Raimi's Spider-Man and the nipple scene is just dumb - and that's far from Han's meat getting anywhere near Leia.
The Hobbit was oriented to kids, he wrote it for his niece or daughter. LotR was never meant to be for kids. Tolkien even wanted to rework The Hobbit for an older target audience. That being said any sex scenes are just not needed and no part of any of his material that I can recall off the top of my head.
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LOTR was never meant to be “kiddy” stuff, you are mixing up The Hobbit and LOTR novels.
Star Wars also has various works that are pretty dark to be considered for kids, so adding sex into that universe wouldn’t exactly be over the top.
Amazon owns the rights to LOTR now and if they want to add more sexuality into their scripts, that’s their right.
I would like to watch it with my 11 year old daughter so I hope they don’t, but it certainly won’t kill the series as some seem to believe.
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Yeah well, jedis and elves, fairy tales of all sorts, are for kids. Adding sex to this type of stories is cringe to me - there was this porn movie that was kind of like Labyrinth, with a girl going to a fantasy world (but not a parody, original material), super cringe. I'm aware there must be 1000 movies that fit this description, but I think it was kind of "big" at the time, must have been late 1990s or early 2000s. I'll try to find the title!
Edit: Brad Armstrong's Dreamquest (2000) - super cringe.
Edit: Brad Armstrong's Dreamquest (2000) - super cringe.
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I doubt Amazon cares what is or isn’t for kids, only how they can make the most money off this series.
If they feel nudity will enhance viewership, they will do it. If they feel the blowback could hurt the series and turn away a large portion of viewers, they will remove the alleged scenes.
What they won’t do, is remove these scenes out of some sense of morality about what is best for kids or not - so we definitely can’t assume that will ever happen.
If they feel nudity will enhance viewership, they will do it. If they feel the blowback could hurt the series and turn away a large portion of viewers, they will remove the alleged scenes.
What they won’t do, is remove these scenes out of some sense of morality about what is best for kids or not - so we definitely can’t assume that will ever happen.
Actually his son, Christopher, who drew the maps for LoTR and published a lot of his father's works posthumesly.
I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that most people aren't watching pornos for the well written storylines lol
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Oh I hope you didn't read my comment as moral police. I don't care what kids watch.
Ahah, wasn't my point either!
Supposedly it was more complicated than just for a family member. I could not remember who exactly it was for, if anyone specific, and found this.
Why Did J.R.R. Tolkien Write The Hobbit?.
The early 1930s represent a period of great experimentation for Tolkien. He quickly drew The Hobbit into the world of his evolving “Silmarillion” mythology but also ultimately excised the most immediate references. That is, by the time the story was fully told it was no longer connected to Beleriand and the events of “Lay of Leithian”/”Beren and Luthien”. The story underwent radical expansion and revision, perhaps due to the various interludes when Tolkien could not work on the tale.
So although Tolkien certainly developed the story with his children in mind, he also used it as an opportunity to experiment with new ideas and concepts. He also drew upon new influences for his myth-making, such as (probably) incorporating Slavic names into his growing lexicon. According to Rateliff’s analysis, the Laketown of The Hobbit also represents Tolkien’s only use of High Medieval culture in what eventually became the fictional Middle-earth of The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion. It may be that Tolkien also began to adopt Gothic and other east Germanic elements into the stories at this time.
Hence, Tolkien wasn’t merely interested in devising a story for his children. He was always making up new stories to entertain them (“The Father Christmas Letters” are contemporary with this period; and Roverandom is slightly older). He appears to have been experimenting with ways of adapting his mythic constructions to further uses, and at the same experimenting with non-English traditions. The heavy Norse influence on the book in terms of characters (Dwarves), places (Mirkwood), and monsters (Trolls) has not escaped notice.
Years ago I read this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Letters-J-R-...ocphy=1019109&hvtargid=pla-457470754700&psc=1
It has his correspondences with various people including Christopher, CS Lewis, and I think his publisher, and probably others. This was back in the '80s so I don't remember a lot of detail but it does give kind of a history of his thinking with respect to his writings.
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No I agree with your thought process, I just know Amazon is an evil empire that only cares for dead presidents above all.
I do find it a little disturbing all these parents let their kids watch Squid Games, but they would draw the line at elf butt?
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This season of the Expanse was great, for what it was. I didn't expect a ton, but I think we got a great send off to a show.
Ultimately, we don't know what the problems are behind the scenes. Everyone, Alcon, Amazon, the actors, writers, production teams, have all been hush hush about why the season was so short. There hasn't even been any credible leaks about what happened.
