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Look through the lens of Nylander and his gutless regular season play costing us from having pettersson. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA SO FUNNY HA HA HA HA HA
Looking back on 1st rounders, do you take the consensus picks or what we have?
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PuckMunchkin
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Off the top of my head, here is who I would have selected from 2014 onwards:
-2014: Horvat + 6th for Sam Reinhart (if the deal was available). :embarrassed:
-2015: Brandon Carlo.
2016: Pierre Luc Dubois. Once he was selected at #3 however, I was hoping for Matthew Tkachuk.
2017: Miro Heiskanen: Heiskanen was my guy all along, even though I knew he likely wouldn’t drop. Cody Glass was my 2nd choice.
2018: Noah Dobson, but Quinn Hughes was my first choice. However - Dobson was my official pick since I didn’t think there was a snowball’s chance in hell that Hughes would drop to us.
-2014: Horvat + 6th for Sam Reinhart (if the deal was available). :embarrassed:
-2015: Brandon Carlo.
2016: Pierre Luc Dubois. Once he was selected at #3 however, I was hoping for Matthew Tkachuk.
2017: Miro Heiskanen: Heiskanen was my guy all along, even though I knew he likely wouldn’t drop. Cody Glass was my 2nd choice.
2018: Noah Dobson, but Quinn Hughes was my first choice. However - Dobson was my official pick since I didn’t think there was a snowball’s chance in hell that Hughes would drop to us.
Horse McHindu
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I’ll say this about Virtanen. I still love the guy even if he doesn’t end up being a Top 6 forward. His speed, shot, and physicality will help us even if it’s not in a Top 6 capacity. Not many players can score in the manner that he did in that first game.
Raffi Torres never lived up to his billing as a number 5, but an in-prime Torres was still a very valuable supplemental piece to a team. I think Virtanen can be the same.
Horse McHindu
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I’m seeing 33-4 route for reality and this brings a smile to my face. 
Man that Pettersson is something special eh? f***. I didn’t see that coming at all.
My guess is that if this poll had been taken a year earlier, it would be 33-4 for the other side, with Tkachuk and Ehlers farting on our faces.
I was honestly worried about two things with Pettersson before the season started:
1) Would his slight frame allow him to be a superstar at the NHL level?
2) Even if he was going to be a superstar (I had EP pegged for stardom either next year or the year after), would he be able to be a superstar as a CENTER (where we needed him to be). My answer for that was no. My answer to this was that EP would be a star in this league (1-2 years from now), but NOT as a center. Boy I’m glad that I was wrong by a country mile.
All we really need now is for....
1) Hughes to be a top pairing PMD (which he will be imo)
2) Juolevi to be a decent 2nd pairing D (still a realistic projection in my opinion)
3) Tryamkin to return and be a 2nd pairing D.......OR, one of Woo/Chatfield to develop into that role
and I think we have ourselves a strong core moving forward.
In net: one of Markstrom, Demko, Dipietro should develop into a good #1 goalie. My guess is that Dipietro will be the one to emerge from the fire.
2) Wingers: Boeser is going through a sophomore slump and/or dealing with an injury and/or isn’t fully recovered and/or had a shortened training off season and/or trained in an idiotic way which caused him to bulk up too much and sacrifice speed......but whatever was the case, I think we will have a very good long term sniper here. Baertschi will be Baertschi. An average 2nd line player that can score at a pace consistent with that of an average 2nd liner. Which is fine. Goldobin has been brought to life by Pettersson. Keep Baertschi with Horvat, and keep Goldobin with Pettersson. While I think Virtanen might be able to become a good 2nd line forward one day, I think he will be a good 3rd line guy for us.......meaning, that our search to find a decent 2nd line RW will have to continue. Thankfully, we have LE to fill that void right now. Maybe Petrus Palmu becomes that guy in the future? Maybe we use Gaudette as a RW’er in the future here.
Fix that defense as I mentioned earlier on, and we have the necessary core to compete moving forward.
Man that Pettersson is something special eh? f***. I didn’t see that coming at all.
My guess is that if this poll had been taken a year earlier, it would be 33-4 for the other side, with Tkachuk and Ehlers farting on our faces.
I was honestly worried about two things with Pettersson before the season started:
1) Would his slight frame allow him to be a superstar at the NHL level?
2) Even if he was going to be a superstar (I had EP pegged for stardom either next year or the year after), would he be able to be a superstar as a CENTER (where we needed him to be). My answer for that was no. My answer to this was that EP would be a star in this league (1-2 years from now), but NOT as a center. Boy I’m glad that I was wrong by a country mile.
All we really need now is for....
1) Hughes to be a top pairing PMD (which he will be imo)
2) Juolevi to be a decent 2nd pairing D (still a realistic projection in my opinion)
3) Tryamkin to return and be a 2nd pairing D.......OR, one of Woo/Chatfield to develop into that role
and I think we have ourselves a strong core moving forward.
In net: one of Markstrom, Demko, Dipietro should develop into a good #1 goalie. My guess is that Dipietro will be the one to emerge from the fire.
2) Wingers: Boeser is going through a sophomore slump and/or dealing with an injury and/or isn’t fully recovered and/or had a shortened training off season and/or trained in an idiotic way which caused him to bulk up too much and sacrifice speed......but whatever was the case, I think we will have a very good long term sniper here. Baertschi will be Baertschi. An average 2nd line player that can score at a pace consistent with that of an average 2nd liner. Which is fine. Goldobin has been brought to life by Pettersson. Keep Baertschi with Horvat, and keep Goldobin with Pettersson. While I think Virtanen might be able to become a good 2nd line forward one day, I think he will be a good 3rd line guy for us.......meaning, that our search to find a decent 2nd line RW will have to continue. Thankfully, we have LE to fill that void right now. Maybe Petrus Palmu becomes that guy in the future? Maybe we use Gaudette as a RW’er in the future here.
Fix that defense as I mentioned earlier on, and we have the necessary core to compete moving forward.
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MadaCanuckle
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Konecny:
#19 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
#11 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
#12 by ISS HOCKEY
#14 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
#14 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters
#15 by TSN/McKenzie
Avg: 14.1(6)
Merkley:
#14 by HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
#17 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
#19 by ISS HOCKEY
#15 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
#23 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters
#17 by TSN/McKenzie
Avg: 17.5
So, Konecny.
Horse McHindu
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@Jack Burton will vote for consensus by the way since he didn’t think Elias Pettersson would make a successful transition to the NHL.
MadaCanuckle
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I remember someone saying on this board three or four days before the draft that Pettersson, if we would pick him at 5, we would be very very happy with that. If it was you, kudos. For me
Ehlers, McCann, Konecny, Tkachuk, Vilardi and Hughes
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Frankie Blueberries
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MadaCanuckle
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You can check my rankings in their respective sites. I don't know how they did that rank, mine is pretty obvious.
SillyRabbit
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Just want to chime in and say that people might be sleeping on Nylander because he’s not playing right now, but he’s a 1st line caliber player.
I’d probably still go with the group we have but man was that ever a huge blunder, especially since Gradin was begging Benning to take him.
I’d probably still go with the group we have but man was that ever a huge blunder, especially since Gradin was begging Benning to take him.
Frankie Blueberries
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They did theirs similar to how voting works for NHL awards.
We took the prospect rankings from 7 different sources Hockey Prospect, Future Considerations, Craig Button, ISS Hockey, Corey Pronman of ESPN, Damien Cox and The Hockey News.
30 points were given to players who were ranked first on a list. 29 points for being ranked second, 28 for third, and so on. We combine all scores to create the below list.
Frankie Blueberries
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Yep. If we had taken Nylander and Tkachuk, our top 6 would be filled out with Pettersson, Horvat, Nylander, Tkachuk, Boeser, and Goldobin/Baertschi instead of plugging in Eriksson and whatnot.
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If we had Nylander,Tkachuk,Horvat,Boeser and the Sedins....I highly doubt we would have been in any position to draft EP.
Fantasy stuff..
MadaCanuckle
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And then they compared rankings with several depth (some top 30, some top 60, some top 100). How can they do a consensus without any kind of ranking consistency?
Billy Kvcmu
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It wasn’t me, I didn’t know much about the 2017 draft, I pick Pettersson because his stats looks impressive in a men’s league at 17
Bojack Horvatman
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Boeser only played 9 games that year. With the Canucks injury luck and same defence the Canucks wouldn't of done much better.
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y2kcanucks
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Considering the first set isn't accurate in terms of consensus I'm abstaining from voting.
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sting101
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He took
Ritchie
Barbashev maybe Lemieux
Konecny
Tkachuk
Vilardi
and i cant remember this years
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