Little Caesar’s Arena Changes Seat Colors,Due to Empty Seats

[BKIslandersFan]

Not true.

I think Kings plays in its third arena.

 

[alko]

I think, the better idea would be to make the tickets cheaper. Then you have full house and nobody will see empty seats.

 

[NeelyWasAWarrior]

I've watched a couple red wing games so far and man are they boring. i don't blame anybody for not coming out to watch these guys.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

I've watched a couple red wing games so far and man are they boring. i don't blame anybody for not coming out to watch these guys.

I think arena is empty for Pistons games too.

 

[bpower]

Off topic, but I just realized that the Red Wings are the first team to be playing in its third arena.

Leafs are in their 3rd arena, and way before the Red Wings did it.

- Mutual Street Arena
- Maple Leaf Gardens
- ACC / Scotiabank

 

[IamNotADancer]

Every stadium with iffy attendance needs move to the BC Place model of seat colouring... stadium always looks more full than it is... always.

The randomness of it really helps...

You call that random? Try this for random:

Not a single person in those seats (if there is I'm sure his name's Waldo), yet it looks packed...

YET the ONLY acceptable solution is this one:

Crowd shots were done over one night using between 2,000 and 3,000 extras, plus cardboard cut outs to make the stadium seem like 17,000.

Sudden Death (1995 film) - Wikipedia

 

[Lunatik]

Leafs are in their 3rd arena, and way before the Red Wings did it.

- Mutual Street Arena
- Maple Leaf Gardens
- ACC / Scotiabank

Habs & Oilers too.

Habs
- Mount Royal Arena 1910-1926
- Montreal Forum 1926-1996
- Bell Centre 1996-Present

Oilers
- Edmonton Gardens 1972-1974
- Northlands Coliseum/Rexall Place 1974-2016
- Rogers Place 2016-Present

When the Flames get theirs, it will be their 3rd too.

I'm sure there are plenty others too. Lots of places played in temporary arenas when they first started out and are on their 2nd rinks since.

 

[Maelmoor]

Off topic, but I just realized that the Red Wings are the first team to be playing in its third arena.

Tampa is also in their third arena, in addition to the other teams mentioned
Expo Hall 1992-1993
Thunder Dome 1993-1996
Amalie Arena (called Ice Palace at first) 1996-present

 

[sandysan]

I've never understood why NHL teams don't just give away all remaining tickets. An empty seat can't spend anything at team stores or at the concession.

ask florida

the short answer is that if there IS a fanabse who is supporting the team (especially STH) when they find out that the guy next to them got in got buying a six pack of beer at the gas station, they are far far less inclined to renew.

Papering the joint doesn't work unless the bank accepts deposits of ticket stubbs, which they don't. Teams that regularly paper the joint risk losing their core fans and are actively devaluing their own product. ok for a while but long term it is self defeating ( which is why florida said they would stop the practice)

 

[joe89]

ask florida

the short answer is that if there IS a fanabse who is supporting the team (especially STH) when they find out that the guy next to them got in got buying a six pack of beer at the gas station, they are far far less inclined to renew.

Papering the joint doesn't work unless the bank accepts deposits of ticket stubbs, which they don't. Teams that regularly paper the joint risk losing their core fans and are actively devaluing their own product. ok for a while but long term it is self defeating ( which is why florida said they would stop the practice)

One way to do it is to only let freebies in after the 2nd period. Then new fans might actually show up to see what it's about and buy tickets in the future. Without pissing off the regular paying crowd.

 

[1865]

I've never understood why NHL teams don't just give away all remaining tickets. An empty seat can't spend anything at team stores or at the concession.

Because people stop buying tickets when they know it's going to be given away if they wait long enough.

 

[sandysan]

One way to do it is to only let freebies in after the 2nd period. Then new fans might actually show up to see what it's about and buy tickets in the future. Without pissing off the regular paying crowd.

who is going to come in after 2/3'rds of the way through ? to get overpriced beer and snacks ? when the same beer is 100% cheaper at a bar around the corner ?

so long as you don't put the camera directly across from a fan desert or use TV angles to ignore the crowd, it will likely be fine eventually.

I'm fine with giving away tickets to kids, but some of the other promos are completely self defeating. If you beleive you havea product worth something, people should pay.

 

[Lunatik]

ask florida

the short answer is that if there IS a fanabse who is supporting the team (especially STH) when they find out that the guy next to them got in got buying a six pack of beer at the gas station, they are far far less inclined to renew.

Papering the joint doesn't work unless the bank accepts deposits of ticket stubbs, which they don't. Teams that regularly paper the joint risk losing their core fans and are actively devaluing their own product. ok for a while but long term it is self defeating ( which is why florida said they would stop the practice)

Because people stop buying tickets when they know it's going to be given away if they wait long enough.

Had either of you read my second post you would have seen that I was suggesting giving the tickets to three groups:

1) Schools
2) Charities (namely things like Big Brothers & Big Sisters)
3) Season ticket holders

I'd also be fine with giving them to things Boy Scout & Girl Guide troops and kids sports teams (even if they aren't hockey teams)

I'm not just suggesting handing them out to every Tom, Dick and Harry

 

[almostawake]

Who’s going to donate this tarp? Melnyk won’t be paying for a tarp big enough to cover all the empty seats?

Why would Melnyk buy the tarp for the Red Wing's arena?

Mike Ilitch runs a first class organization. If they are going to tarp empty sections you can be certain they'll spare no expense.

 

[rfournier103]

Off topic, but I just realized that the Red Wings are the first team to be playing in its third arena.

The Boston Bruins have played at:

Boston Arena (Northeastern University’s “Matthews Arena”)

Boston Garden.

TD Garden.

 

[1865]

Had either of you read my second post you would have seen that I was suggesting giving the tickets to three groups:

1) Schools
2) Charities (namely things like Big Brothers & Big Sisters)
3) Season ticket holders

I'd also be fine with giving them to things Boy Scout & Girl Guide troops and kids sports teams (even if they aren't hockey teams)

I'm not just suggesting handing them out to every Tom, Dick and Harry

It's difficult to gauge how many to give away i imagine. These decisions are mostly done well in advance, and an upturn in form could see you giving away tickets that could legitimately be sold otherwise.

Oh, and all of their games are sold out regardless of how many turn up.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Red wings empty seats?

 

[Colin226]

Every game has been sold out.

“reportedly” sold out.. I find it hard to believe they have that many people just eating those expensive tickets. But nearly every NHL team buys up the remaining unsold seats at times to report sell outs.

 

[Lunatik]

It's difficult to gauge how many to give away i imagine. These decisions are mostly done well in advance, and an upturn in form could see you giving away tickets that could legitimately be sold otherwise.

Oh, and all of their games are sold out regardless of how many turn up.

It's not that hard to gauge how many to give away. I wouldn't start until later in the season (November) and wouldn't give any out until 1-2 weeks prior. Look at the average you sell in the final 1-2 weeks and keep the maximum sold in that time + 1k

I'm also suggesting this for all teams, not just the Wings.

For example, say team B is averaging 14k in attendance in October, but have a 19k arena. They see that they sell between 1.5-2k in tickets in the final 2 weeks before the game. So you could safely give away say 3.5-4k to schools, charities... etc.

edit: you also can use historical data to see which visiting teams draw better.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Last year alone, the Hurricanes played at 31 different arenas.

 

[SabresSharks]

Maybe if Holland hadn't been icing mediocre, veteran-heavy teams to satisfy his playoff streak obsession for far too long, those bright red seats might be filled.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Do what the North Stars did:

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Off topic, but I just realized that the Red Wings are the first team to be playing in its third arena.

Technically, that’s not true.

Boston is also in their third arena, along with Montreal and Toronto.

 

[Lunatik]

Technically, that’s not true.

Boston is also in their third arena, along with Montreal and Toronto.

So are your Oilers

 

[tarheelhockey]

Technically, that’s not true.

Boston is also in their third arena, along with Montreal and Toronto.

Strictly speaking, it’s not true of the Red Wings either.

The franchise, under its original name of the Cougars, played its first season at Windsor Arena while the Olympia was under construction.

So that’s 4 arenas for the Wings franchise.