List active players your team regrets trading away

[flyfysher]

Barrie is extremely likeable, and he seemed like he was just a loved member of the team from his own teammates. He is an extremely flawed player however, and would not add much to the current Avs defense, especially as he would/should not be getting PP1 time over Makar.

You’re right. It just points out the passion behind some people’s POV and why it makes sense not to get too attached to players.

Some Avs fans would argue letting ROR go for Big Z was their team’s mistake. And now I’m a big fan of Zadorov but trading him was absolutely the right move. Besides Zadorov turned into Saad with retention and Gilbert much less Compher (as wanting as his play has been). So Sakic traded for a 2nd line 2 way C in ROR for a grittier 2nd line LW in Saad who can play down low. That’s why I don’t think the Avs players should be in the discussion in this particular forum.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Sergachev for Drouin.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

2 spring to mind. Rask hurts alot, also to a slightly lesser extent, shipping Steen out was brutal (even though he's now 'retired')

 

[belair]

For the Oilers? Petry and Strome. Both would be welcome additions right about now

 

[abo9]

MTL killed it this past offseason

Anderson for Domi was a steal. Signing of Toffoli

And the draft also. Tuch pick. Hate it

I am very critical of MB, I really disliked his moves up until 2018 and imo he should have been fired. But, since the Kotkaniemi draft it looks like a different management team, and I've liked the moves/direction of the team. This past Summer the trend continued with good signings and seemingly a direction when you look at the length of the new contract signed + the prospects in the pipeline.

I admit to have doubted the Anderson trade and signing though, but he looked great when healthy (hopefully he's just having bad lucks). Domi... looked REALLY good that 1 year but it's like he can't maintain that fire unfortunately.

 

[GoldenSeal]

On behalf of all Blues fans across the known universe, thank you for ROR. Respect.

 

[jetsforever]

No one really from Winnipeg
Laine stings but it's too early to call that one
Maybe Armia? It's not a huge loss though.

 

[The National]

Seguin for sure. Lindgren runner up.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

You’re right. It just points out the passion behind some people’s POV and why it makes sense not to get too attached to players.

Some Avs fans would argue letting ROR go for Big Z was their team’s mistake. And now I’m a big fan of Zadorov but trading him was absolutely the right move. Besides Zadorov turned into Saad with retention and Gilbert much less Compher (as wanting as his play has been). So Sakic traded for a 2nd line 2 way C in ROR for a grittier 2nd line LW in Saad who can play down low. That’s why I don’t think the Avs players should be in the discussion in this particular forum.

I would argue that making a lowball, take it or leave it offer to ROR after his ELC was the team's mistake. By the time the trade happened, the only available options were trade ROR or lose him for nothing. We obviously made the right choice in that context, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't regret it getting to that point in the first place. Ideally, we would have made a much more reasonable offer to him, and the trade never becomes inevitable.

And, one year of Saad doesn't make up for it in the slightest. About the only reason I would think twice about changing how things worked out, knowing what I know now, is because keeping ROR probably means we probably wouldn't have Makar, Byram, Girard, etc. and would probably still have Duchene. But, I still regret that we were forced to trade him.

I was also one of the people arguing we should keep Barrie, because I wasn't sure how Makar would adjust to the NHL as a rookie. Today, I have zero regrets about making that trade.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I wish the Canes were more patient with Khudobin. He’s one of those goalies who needs a certain context to show his best game, and we didn’t have that at the time.

 

[flyfysher]

I would argue that making a lowball, take it or leave it offer to ROR after his ELC was the team's mistake. By the time the trade happened, the only available options were trade ROR or lose him for nothing. We obviously made the right choice in that context, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't regret it getting to that point in the first place. Ideally, we would have made a much more reasonable offer to him, and the trade never becomes inevitable.

And, one year of Saad doesn't make up for it in the slightest. About the only reason I would think twice about changing how things worked out, knowing what I know now, is because keeping ROR probably means we probably wouldn't have Makar, Byram, Girard, etc. and would probably still have Duchene. But, I still regret that we were forced to trade him.

I was also one of the people arguing we should keep Barrie, because I wasn't sure how Makar would adjust to the NHL as a rookie. Today, I have zero regrets about making that trade.

I would still pass on ROR. He hadn’t really established a proven track when his salary negotiations arose although I get your point. You can criticize Sakic for his tack and losing ROR was a risk that we as Avs fans lost. Still those are the kinds of stances you sometimes have to take if you’re going to be successful in managing the team’s salary cap. For example, look at how the TML’s were affected by Marner’s contract versus the Avs with Rantanen’s contract. IIRC, wasn’t ROR’s salary with the Sabres more than what the Avs are paying MacKinnon?

 

[FractionTwo]

Oilers

- Mathew Barzel
- Jeff Petry
- Taylor hall kinda but not really.

Chris pronger makes more sense if im edmonton

 

[Rpenny]

For the Bruins it still has to be Tyler Seguin

I guess if the return value is fair, it doesn't sting so much. But still there are cases where the team just gave up on the player too quickly. Or used incorrectly etc.

where to start with the Oilers? and when you factor in DRAFT picks?

 

[Pietrangelo]

Not traded away, but I feel like the Montreal canadiens could have used Radulov the last few years. Too bad there was the confusion leading to him signing with Dallas.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I would still pass on ROR. He hadn’t really established a proven track when his salary negotiations arose although I get your point. You can criticize Sakic for his tack and losing ROR was a risk that we as Avs fans lost. Still those are the kinds of stances you sometimes have to take if you’re going to be successful in managing the team’s salary cap. For example, look at how the TML’s were affected by Marner’s contract versus the Avs with Rantanen’s contract. IIRC, wasn’t ROR’s salary with the Sabres more than what the Avs are paying MacKinnon?

I agree that ROR hadn't earned a huge payday, even though he led the team in scoring in his final ELC season. But, iirc, the Avs offered him $3.5m per year for either 2 or 5 years, take it or leave it. He ended up signing an offer sheet for $5m AAV, so I don't think it's outlandish to think that $4.25m AAV might have avoided the holdout all together, and prevented ROR from resenting the organization. And, it wasn't Sakic in those negotiations, it was Sherman doing LaCroix's bidding.

I also agree that Sakic absolutely made the right choice to not give ROR the $8m he wanted to stay (he got $7.5 from Buffalo). And, in hindsight, we're much better off now than we probably would be had we kept him. But, I still regret that we had to trade him and can't help but wonder what might have been had there been some compromise in that first negotiation.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Shouldve never left Denver to start.

 

[JabbaJabba]

Only one really for the Ducks. Shea Theodore. And it could have been avoided...

 

[flyfysher]

I agree that ROR hadn't earned a huge payday, even though he led the team in scoring in his final ELC season. But, iirc, the Avs offered him $3.5m per year for either 2 or 5 years, take it or leave it. He ended up signing an offer sheet for $5m AAV, so I don't think it's outlandish to think that $4.25m AAV might have avoided the holdout all together, and prevented ROR from resenting the organization. And, it wasn't Sakic in those negotiations, it was Sherman doing LaCroix's bidding.

I also agree that Sakic absolutely made the right choice to not give ROR the $8m he wanted to stay (he got $7.5 from Buffalo). And, in hindsight, we're much better off now than we probably would be had we kept him. But, I still regret that we had to trade him and can't help but wonder what might have been had there been some compromise in that first negotiation.

Compher type salary? 3.5M/year? In other words, ROR had not yet clearly established he was an elite 2C in Sakic’s mind at the time. That tells you how far apart they were even though ROR ultimately proved he was the real deal but definitely not enough to retain him at $7.5M+ AAV for Sakic.

 

[Viqsi]

For Columbus Jakub Voracek and Pierre-Luc Dubois

No regrets for The Traitor. Ever.

Voracek is definitely on there, tho. Possibly also Jonathan Marchessault - we weren't the only ones to overlook him, but even so.

And he's not active, but nonetheless Rostislav Klesla should have been allowed to retire a Blue Jacket.

 

[Stephen]

Before 2016, I think Tuukka Rask would have been a major one for Toronto, but everything had to happen the way it did for the Leafs to bottom out and be reinvented they have been since then.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Rask

 

[Louie the Blue]

In what way?

He’s an enforcer that can fight and actually skate.

I see a 15pt player that doesnt penalty kill or power play. You miss him more than a guy that scored 25 or more goals in 4 of 5 seasons in Washington? Ok.

Consider the context why Oshie was traded.

Oshie is a better player than Reaves.

However, Oshie was disciplined at least once because of off ice problems by Blues management and went ghost mode in the playoffs for the better part of his time in St. Louis. Additionally, the Blues “core” was under criticism because of 3 consecutive first round exits and Oshie was blamed for part of that, as was Perron.

He would not be the player or as mature as he is today if he’d still been there. Perron also likely would not have been as good as a player as he is if he had not been traded to Edmonton.

There was never really any criticism for Reaves with regards to his performance given that he’s good at what he does and by all accounts was mature enough not to be disciplined by the Blues for off ice stuff.

 

[txpd]

He’s an enforcer that can fight and actually skate.

Teams need an enforcer for the 4th line so badly that you regret losing him more than a 25 goal scorer. Weird priorities

 

[TheJadePipe]

Joel Armia

 

[Louie the Blue]

Teams need an enforcer for the 4th line so badly that you regret losing him more than a 25 goal scorer. Weird priorities

I just edited to add to my post as you responded.

Oshie was scape goated for early Blues exits while being a ghost in the playoffs to go along with maturity questions.

He had to go and Armstrong nuked his value by being determined to trade him.

ETA: I understand why they were both traded as well, but I’d also miss Bishop and Shattenkirk in the past decade before missing Oshie.