Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by znkhan, Feb 11, 2019.
Then who is the most like Hyman? Find him, put him and Nylander with Matthews.
Marleau killed the Kadri line. As soon as he went off of it the line started producing.
Ok, that may have been. But since he's been a Leaf going back to last season, Kadri is the one he has worked the best with.
That was last season but this year he has been terrible with Kadri
They are not a good fit anymore
Kadri needs someone who can forecheck and get pucks which Marleau could do last year
Then put any of Johnsson, Kapanen or Brown on the other side.
They can't have Matthews' line being as inconsistent as they've been since being put together.
The stats say Marleau has killed every line he’s been on this year. In the ideal world he’d be on the fourth line but I know that’s not realistic. I don’t think there’s a single NHL coach, for better or worse, that would put Marleau on the 4th line.
I agree with Nylander back with Matthew's. Kadri line has been good, but Matthew's has been a negative player for the last couple weeks.
With him on I think we'll be at another level. Helps Kapanen has been good with Kadri as well.
The LW's can alternate during games, but I'd stick with top 3 lines otherwise.
Kapanen - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - - - Tavares - - - Marner
Johnsson - - - Kadri - - - Brown
Marleau - - - Gauthier - - Ennis
Muzzin - - - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey
While I cannot stand the Gardiner/Zaitsev pair, I think it would be in the teams long term best interest to allow Rielly and Muzzin to Gel, and allow Hainsey to mentor Dermott.
Matthews, Tavares, Kadri and Marleau are the designated snipers
Nylander, Marner, Johnsson and Ennis the playmakers (all of them can score as well)
Kapanen, Hyman, Brown and Gauthier are the designated worker bees. With Kapanen being able to contribute offensively
All I know is we win yesterday if Nylander had Matthews to pass to.
Give Kadri's 10 mediocre shot attempts to Matthews and Matthews gets a hat trick.
You might be on to something here.
Marleau's play warrants a few games in the press box but that will never happen even if he kills lines and sinks the team.
Lots of chatter out there about Ferland, I think he’d be a great pickup. He’s expiring, wonder if we can get him for something like Brown + 2nd? If so:
Ferland - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - JT - Marner
AJ - Naz - Kapanen
Marleau - Goat - Lindholm
That’d give us a killer top 9, and still a very good 4th line. Ferland would walk in the offseason (no $$ to retain him), but he could be a great rental, think he’d look real nice with Matthews and Nylander.
-Love Hyman but his primary point rate is attrocious for the line he plays on. He works hard but I think Moore works just as hard in the corners and has a much higher skill set. This would give us two top heavy lines like Tampa and the bottom 6 should still be able to produce nicely.
*I know this would never happen with Babs running the team though. Loves Hyman, Marleau, and Brown way too much.
How can Babcock watch the supposed #2 player in the league having no results game after game and not realize Marleau is killing that line?
Hyman-Tavares-Marner: our best, most consistent line
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander: Matthews and Nylander have great chemistry, and Johnsson is a perfect fit with them
Moore-Kadri-Kapanen: two fast and high intensity wingers for Kadri to create havoc against other 3rd lines
Marleau-Gauthier-Brown: solid 4th line, should be able to outplay other 4th liners
-can switch Marleau and Moore if Moore doesn't seem like he can handle 3rd line competition yet
My concern about having Johnsson with Matthews and Nylander is that no one would go into the corners and they would be exposed on D. Man would it be great to get a rental like Wayne Simmonds to do that Job with Matthews.
I would bet my life that line would generate more puck possession than the current one with Marleau despite having nobody to "go into corners" (good god people just run away with this). Take a look at a lot of Nylander and Johnsson's latest points/goals, they're beating defenders to the puck, getting body position and making plays. In fact Nylander seems to be winning a hell of a lot more puck battles than Marleau lately.
I've been repeatedly told that he's a Malkin-level talent. That level of talent shouldn't be that limited by Marleau.
How bout it's time we see some Malkin-level results since he's being paid and touted like one.
The impact of having a grinder on these lines is greatly exaggerated because Tavares/Marner are so deadly.
I don't care if you hit a guy, just get the puck, keep it in your possession, and score. If you strip a guy with a stick check it's just as good. You can't get exposed on D if you always have the puck.
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander would be deadly if given the proper chance.
Great players make the others around them better. Matthews been floating like a poor mans nylander
Marleau is the ultimate Babcock player. A plug who is a hall of famer
the ultimate Babcock player is a skilled 2-way center.
(Looks at the current 3rd line numbers) Huh?
He can't stay healthy. He is out again.
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