Line Combos: Line/Roster Moves 21/22 - The Naurato Edition

[Winger98]

Carry on

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[Frk It]

Can only hope this is the image...

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Can only hope this is the image...

Definitely expecting Son Goku, Naruto, and Luffy to make the team this year.

 

[Henkka]

In former discussion there was mentioned that "centers won't grow on trees and we need lotto pick to acquire one".

Just looked for the 2018 class and:

#3 Jesperi Kotkaniemi, still struggling at MOntreal, no one knows does he pan out or not
#5 Barret Hayton, seems like a bust after his abysmal season
#13 Ty Dellandrea, entering in NHL, seems like gritty bottom6 guy
#18 Liam Foudy, not going anywhere at the moment. Winger at last season
#19 Jay O'Brien, still at college
#20 Rasmus Kupari, struggling at Kings farm system
#23 Isac Lundeström, second most NHL games and Faceoffs after Kotkaniemi, two seasons with 0.23 & 0.22 ppg level of production. Same as Rasmussen is able to do.
#30 Joe Veleno... what I saw last season and compared to others... I think he could become best of this class.

 

[golffuul]

In former discussion there was mentioned that "centers won't grow on trees and we need lotto pick to acquire one".

Just looked for the 2018 class and:

#3 Jesperi Kotkaniemi, still struggling at MOntreal, no one knows does he pan out or not
#5 Barret Hayton, seems like a bust after his abysmal season
#13 Ty Dellandrea, entering in NHL, seems like gritty bottom6 guy
#18 Liam Foudy, not going anywhere at the moment. Winger at last season
#19 Jay O'Brien, still at college
#20 Rasmus Kupari, struggling at Kings farm system
#23 Isac Lundeström, second most NHL games and Faceoffs after Kotkaniemi, two seasons with 0.23 & 0.22 ppg level of production. Same as Rasmussen is able to do.
#30 Joe Veleno... what I saw last season and compared to others... I think he could become best of this class.

He was always a late bloomer, even when he had exceptional status in the QMJHL He always took one extra year longer than his "class" to get up to speed, but always ended up being near the top of his peers when it all evened out. Veleno could be a big steal for us for where he was picked. Even if his max is a good two-way 2nd line center, I think that's a win for us.

 

[Ricelund]

In former discussion there was mentioned that "centers won't grow on trees and we need lotto pick to acquire one".

Just looked for the 2018 class and:

#3 Jesperi Kotkaniemi, still struggling at MOntreal, no one knows does he pan out or not
#5 Barret Hayton, seems like a bust after his abysmal season
#13 Ty Dellandrea, entering in NHL, seems like gritty bottom6 guy
#18 Liam Foudy, not going anywhere at the moment. Winger at last season
#19 Jay O'Brien, still at college
#20 Rasmus Kupari, struggling at Kings farm system
#23 Isac Lundeström, second most NHL games and Faceoffs after Kotkaniemi, two seasons with 0.23 & 0.22 ppg level of production. Same as Rasmussen is able to do.
#30 Joe Veleno... what I saw last season and compared to others... I think he could become best of this class.

Unfortunately, looking at the 2017 class you get this:

#9 Michael Rasmussen
#11 Gabriel Vilardi
#12 Martin Necas
#13 Nick Suzuki
#20 Robert Thomas
#21 Filip Chytil

Hopefully Rasmussen shows more this season.

 

[Henkka]

Unfortunately, looking at the 2017 class you get this:

#9 Michael Rasmussen
#11 Gabriel Vilardi
#12 Martin Necas
#13 Nick Suzuki
#20 Robert Thomas
#21 Filip Chytil

Hopefully Rasmussen shows more this season.

2017 is pretty damn strong class.

But, in reality, Chytil and Necas have been career-wingers so far. Robert Thomas seems the same.

 

[Henkka]

My current Training camp lines:

Team RED
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Vrana - Larkin - Zadina (top6 line)
Berggren - Veleno - Gagner (mixed line)
Namestnikov - Stephens - Smith (defensive line)
Tyutyayev - Criscuolo - RW (Griffins line)

DeKeyser - Seider (defensive - norris)
Renouf - Stecher (defensive - puckmoving)
McIsaac - Oesterle (defensive - puckmoving) Oesterle as 8th D, but better pairings this way.

Greiss (vet starter)
Brattström (youngish backup)

Team WHITE
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Fabbri - Suter - Bertuzzi (top6 line)
Hirose - Rasmussen - Raymond (mixed line)
Nielsen - Pearson - Erne (defensive line)
LW - Shine - Barber (Griffins line)

Staal - Hronek (defensive - puckmoving)
Leddy - Lindström (offensive - defensive)
Lashoff - Murphy (defensive - offensive)

Nedeljkovic (youngish starter)
Pickard (vet backup)

Quite much of new guys, all on red who haven't been more there than just short stints, like Veleno and Vrana.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Unfortunately, looking at the 2017 class you get this:

#9 Michael Rasmussen
#11 Gabriel Vilardi
#12 Martin Necas
#13 Nick Suzuki
#20 Robert Thomas
#21 Filip Chytil

Hopefully Rasmussen shows more this season.

Only Necas and Suzuki are really coming off good seasons though, and both have the benefit of being on good teams comparatively.

 

[David D]

Vrana Larkin Zadina

Raymond Suter Bertuzzi

Fabbri Veleno Gagner

Erne Rasmussen Smith

Nemestnikov

Leddy Seider

Staal Hronek

Dekeyser Stetcher

 

[Frk It]

Only Necas and Suzuki are really coming off good seasons though, and both have the benefit of being on good teams comparatively.

Suzuki is the best forward on that team. He makes those other guys better.
Necas defeinitely benefits from playing with Aho.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Suzuki is the best forward on that team. He makes those other guys better.
Necas defeinitely benefits from playing with Aho.

I thought that Aho played with Terravainen, and Necas played with Niederreiter?

EDIT: Here. Carolina Hurricanes Line Combinations | The Morning Puck

 

[Frk It]

I thought that Aho played with Terravainen, and Necas played with Niederreiter?

EDIT: Here. Carolina Hurricanes Line Combinations | The Morning Puck

Maybe I am thinking of the line he played on when they played us. Looks like this was the split.

Either way, Necas is a really nice player.

1	329:38	36.0	NINO NIEDERREITER - VINCENT TROCHECK - MARTIN NECAS	15	6	9	183	128	58.8	332	274	54.8
2	132:03	14.4	NINO NIEDERREITER - SEBASTIAN AHO - MARTIN NECAS	7	1	6	76	64	54.3	129	111	53.8

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[Hatter of the Beach]

Have a feeling that Yzerman is doing his DD on Dylan Strome. Would not be surprised to see us acquiring him, Debrusk, or Dvorak in a trade in the near future

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Dylan Strome reminds me of a less talented Robert Lang. Do you remember how hated he was?

 

[lilidk]

Zadina-Larkin - Raymond
Bergreen- Rasmussen- Veleno
Fabbri - Suter- Smith
Pearson-Namestnikov - Gagner
Trade Bert , Vrana , Erne for 1,1,2
2022 draft is very deep and 2023 must get Frenchie player
I am not for tanking, but for better and quality picks,

 

[Frk It]

Have a feeling that Yzerman is doing his DD on Dylan Strome. Would not be surprised to see us acquiring him, Debrusk, or Dvorak in a trade in the near future

I might be more tempted to try and get Kurashev.

But yeah, we should be talking to teams with a logjam at center.

I was thinking of maybe kicking the tires on Shane Bowers (COL), but his offense hasn’t developed like I hoped it would.

 

[DatsDeking]

Have a feeling that Yzerman is doing his DD on Dylan Strome. Would not be surprised to see us acquiring him, Debrusk, or Dvorak in a trade in the near future

Im not sure we have, or are willing to give up, what it takes to get Dvorak. I thought I read they were asking for a 1st and a top prospect. I like Dvorak and think he would be a good fit, but I don’t think I pay that price. Especially not now.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Im not sure we have, or are willing to give up, what it takes to get Dvorak. I thought I read they were asking for a 1st and a top prospect. I like Dvorak and think he would be a good fit, but I don’t think I pay that price. Especially not now.

Oh yeah, he's a 40 to 50 point center that's only OK defensively. I like the idea of adding him to the team but it better be for a combination of bottom 6 player, B level prospect or a 2nd or 3rd round pick. 1st rounder for Dvorak? That's just crazy talk.

 

[Revenge of Gru]

In former discussion there was mentioned that "centers won't grow on trees and we need lotto pick to acquire one".

Just looked for the 2018 class and:

#3 Jesperi Kotkaniemi, still struggling at MOntreal, no one knows does he pan out or not
#5 Barret Hayton, seems like a bust after his abysmal season
#13 Ty Dellandrea, entering in NHL, seems like gritty bottom6 guy
#18 Liam Foudy, not going anywhere at the moment. Winger at last season
#19 Jay O'Brien, still at college
#20 Rasmus Kupari, struggling at Kings farm system
#23 Isac Lundeström, second most NHL games and Faceoffs after Kotkaniemi, two seasons with 0.23 & 0.22 ppg level of production. Same as Rasmussen is able to do.
#30 Joe Veleno... what I saw last season and compared to others... I think he could become best of this class.

These players are 21 years old. Kotkaniemi put up 8 points in 19 playoff games. Do people still not understand that players peak in their mid to late 20s? That's why the Wings are still 7-10 years away. The center that we draft next year will only be 26 in 10 years.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Yeah youre right players aren’t good enough until they are 26. Matthews Eichel Petterson Mcdavid still got some years to go before they are good

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yeah youre right players aren’t good enough until they are 26. Matthews Eichel Petterson Mcdavid still got some years to go before they are good

Yeah, it took forever for that shithead Crosby kid to win. Same thing with Patrick Kane and Toews in Chicago. Whatever happened to those guys?

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Yeah, it took forever for that shithead Crosby kid to win. Same thing with Patrick Kane and Toews in Chicago. Whatever happened to those guys?

They turned 27 and went past there 1 year prime. Abruptly turned to dust afterwards

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

They turned 27 and went past there 1 year prime. Abruptly turned to dust afterwards

Oh yeah. I vaguely remember something like that happening. Serves them right for trying to play past their prime.

 

[Gniwder]

Oh yeah. I vaguely remember something like that happening. Serves them right for trying to play past their prime.

Meanwhile we have Larkin who seems to have peaked at 22...