Recalled/Assigned: Lias Andersson - Part III (Loaned to SHL)

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Matz03

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I wanted to give Lias the benefit of the doubt, the Rangers handled him poorly and rushed him, zero doubt about that. But if there is a trend with the 2017 and 2018 picks, it’s that they went for two entitled kids, and it surly doesn’t look great now. It’ll be good for him to stay home, the season will start on time and he can get his confidence back and play in a strong league. He’ll either be back for the 2021-22 season in camp stronger and more mature, we might have some openings at the point anyway. Or he’ll be expansion draft bait instead. Whatever but kind of sour now on our recent 1st round drafting, good thing they couldn’t mess up the Kakko pick.
 
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I wanted to give Lias the benefit of the doubt, the Rangers handled him poorly and rushed him, zero doubt about that. But if there is a trend with the 2017 and 2018 picks, it’s that they went for two entitled kids, and it surly doesn’t look great now. It’ll be good for him to stay home, the season will start on time and he can get his confidence back and play in a strong league. He’ll either be back for the 2021-22 season in camp stronger and more mature, we might have some openings at the point anyway. Or he’ll be expansion draft bait instead. Whatever but kind of sour now on our recent 1st round drafting, good thing they couldn’t mess up the Kakko pick.

Give it time.
 

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Give it time.

Thank goodness the Rangers picked second instead of first that year. Kakko was the entire planet's consensus pick when the Rangers stepped up to the podium, and will never be a bad pick even if he ends up a pumpkin.
 
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Thank goodness the Rangers picked second instead of first that year. Kakko was the entire planet's consensus pick when the Rangers stepped up to the podium, and will never be a bad pick even if he ends up a pumpkin.

And if that happens we will still see complaints how we didn't pick Turcotte/Dach/Cozens/Zegras/whoever turns into a star. You know it haha
 

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I would have liked to see him come to camp and fight for a spot; we could really use a good bottom-six player on an ELC.

That said, given the uncertainty around the start of next season, I guess this makes sense. Makes me wonder if we ever see him again, though.
 
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Thank goodness the Rangers picked second instead of first that year. Kakko was the entire planet's consensus pick when the Rangers stepped up to the podium, and will never be a bad pick even if he ends up a pumpkin.

Nah, someone will push the narrative that the whole scouting staff had Zegras at #2 but Gordie Clark "just had to be the smartest guy in the room" and went off the board.
 

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It's very possible that the "make up" between Lias and the organization was actually more of an agreement to just carry on as if everything is fine so as to not missile any remaining value that he has.

I'm sure they would both love for a trade to be worked out, and it's possible he never comes back to North America as a member of the Rangers.
 
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It's very possible that the "make up" between Lias and the organization was actually more of an agreement to just carry on as if everything is fine so as to not missile any remaining value that he has.

I'm sure they would both love for a trade to be worked out, and it's possible he never comes back to North America as a member of the Rangers.
This has been my assumption since the "reconciliation." They play nice, pretend things are fine to maintain his value, while the team looks for a deal.

I was hoping that Lias instead would decide he legitimately wanted to come back and compete, but the "maintain appearances" angle just makes too much sense.
 

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This has been my assumption since the "reconciliation." They play nice, pretend things are fine to maintain his value, while the team looks for a deal.

I was hoping that Lias instead would decide he legitimately wanted to come back and compete, but the "maintain appearances" angle just makes too much sense.

Yeah, I'd like for him come back and try at some point as well.

From what we've seen of the kid though, I suspect he is stubborn to a fault. If he doesn't want to ever come back right now, he probably won't change his mind.
 
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It's very possible that the "make up" between Lias and the organization was actually more of an agreement to just carry on as if everything is fine so as to not missile any remaining value that he has.

I'm sure they would both love for a trade to be worked out, and it's possible he never comes back to North America as a member of the Rangers.
That’s almost assuredly what’s happening

Make no mistake Gorton will dump this kid the moment he gets a deal he likes. What will most likely happen is he’ll be a throw in for a bigger trade
 

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It's very possible that the "make up" between Lias and the organization was actually more of an agreement to just carry on as if everything is fine so as to not missile any remaining value that he has.

I'm sure they would both love for a trade to be worked out, and it's possible he never comes back to North America as a member of the Rangers.

its possible but we will never know because any potential plans changed with Covid and next season starting late.

if we were getting ready for a regular camp in September I think lundkvist, rykov, Tarmo and probably lias would all be here trying to make the team. But with the current situation it makes sense to leave them all over there...and I’d be looking into options for other top prospects to make sure that they get to play somewhere
 

Oscar Lindberg

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Also he’ll never get a “fair” (I’ll use the term fair sparingly) shot with Quinn here. Bad mouthing the coach publicly just adds another hurdle to his path to the NHL here

You can believe in a meritocracy all you want, but at the end of the day coaches play favorites and have long memories.
 

Kakko Schmakko

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Is it though, given the stunning variety in post intelligence among you folks?

us folks? seems like the problem is with the likes of you that lumps posters they disagree with into one category. Just because you disagree with what someone says, doesn't make them wrong and it definitely doesn't make them less intelligent.
 
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Kakko Schmakko

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Lias has more to lose than to gain returning to the Rangers. He understands that coaches, fans, teammates can turn on him very quickly if something goes wrong.

I hope we can get a 2nd rounder for him and he can have a fresh start somewhere else.
 

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us folks? seems like the problem is with the likes of you that lumps posters they disagree with into one category. Just because you disagree with what someone says, doesn't make them wrong and it definitely doesn't make them less intelligent.

Oh, it's not all posters I disagree with. Just 2 or 3. You and Bern for instance are far different. Moreover, it depends on the subject. Someone can post something I completely agree with on one topic, and then post utter idiocy on another
 

Kakko Schmakko

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Who do you actually think will give us a second for him?

right now maybe some rebuilding team that has lots of draft picks like Kings or Senators or Red Wings. But if he has a great start to the season there might be more teams interested.
 
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