Recalled/Assigned: Lias Andersson - Part III (Loaned to SHL)

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Kakko Schmakko

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Who was that lucky guy? How much he got paid to do that?
 

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He's only 21. His body language already looks better than when he was with the team a few months ago. I believe he will be back in the NHL at some point. I also think he should be tried at wing. You may very well see a scenario next season where the third line is Lemieux-Chytil-Kravtsov/Kakko, and the fourth line could be Lias-Howden-Fast. I would also not be opposed to playing Lias and Chytil together at some point during training camp. The tough love phase is over, now let's hope his mind was refreshed because I still think he can be very useful for us.
 
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I think the Rock also got a face full of Rikishi ass at some point. I watched this during childhood and I didn't get it then and I definitely don't get it now.
Must've been during one of Rock's heel turns. This was Rock and Rikishi getting revenge on McMahon during the "kiss my ass club" storyline.
 
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I'm feeling like he might make a return here. Knowing what I know about John Davidson I'd say he would be able to smooth this over. Lias must know by now his value is so low NY can't justify moving him. He should tuck his tail and come back.
 

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I'm feeling like he might make a return here. Knowing what I know about John Davidson I'd say he would be able to smooth this over. Lias must know by now his value is so low NY can't justify moving him. He should tuck his tail and come back.

Why should he? He'd be making 70k before taxes, escrow, and agent fees if he's stuck in HFD, so unless he's got some type of guarantee he'll be in the NHL, he's probably making more money playing in Sweden

EDIT: To be clear, my hope is in fact that JD can make things happen and bring him into the fold. Kid's playing well in Sweden, and it's distinctly possible that he just needed a full reset on the season. I think long-term, he's our 3C of the future if he continues playing at this level, and his foot injury/injuries heal fully
 

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Why should he? He'd be making 70k before taxes, escrow, and agent fees if he's stuck in HFD, so unless he's got some type of guarantee he'll be in the NHL, he's probably making more money playing in Sweden

EDIT: To be clear, my hope is in fact that JD can make things happen and bring him into the fold. Kid's playing well in Sweden, and it's distinctly possible that he just needed a full reset on the season. I think long-term, he's our 3C of the future if he continues playing at this level, and his foot injury/injuries heal fully

Because if he stays in SEL he is stalling his already tenuous career. He's already proved he can play there,he needs to prove he is an NHL player. If he plays well enough to be an NHL player they will have him in the NHL, if he isn't an NHL player then I guess just stay where you are.
 

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Why should he? He'd be making 70k before taxes, escrow, and agent fees if he's stuck in HFD, so unless he's got some type of guarantee he'll be in the NHL, he's probably making more money playing in Sweden

EDIT: To be clear, my hope is in fact that JD can make things happen and bring him into the fold. Kid's playing well in Sweden, and it's distinctly possible that he just needed a full reset on the season. I think long-term, he's our 3C of the future if he continues playing at this level, and his foot injury/injuries heal fully

I have a feeling the 2 sides are done with each other. I want Lias traded in the summer. waiting another year would hurt his value because at age 22/23 he will lose value. The team trading for him would want to develop him in NHL at this point, not wait for him to play another year in Sweden.
 

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It'd be nice if the 2 sides could hash out their differences.

Hes gotten a raw deal here with Quinn so perhaps that bridge is just a pile of ash now, but we could really use the type of player he projects to be.
 
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It'd be nice if the 2 sides could hash out their differences.

Hes gotten a raw deal here with Quinn so perhaps that bridge is just a pile of ash now, but we could really use the type of player he projects to be.

I am not even sure what type of player he is projected to be anymore. He turned most of the projections upside down.
 

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It'd be nice if the 2 sides could hash out their differences.

Hes gotten a raw deal here with Quinn so perhaps that bridge is just a pile of ash now, but we could really use the type of player he projects to be.

A raw deal, how? He didn’t show the ability to be a regular NHL player so he was sent down for further development. What does he project to be? If he can be a bottom 6 guy or traded for one then that a win at this point.
 
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At the end of the day for a 21 year old top 10 pick if he can’t produce at the SHL level there really isn’t much lower for him to go. So this shouldn’t be exciting it should be considered the minimum requirement for him to continue as a pro hockey player. I don’t think his value is growing outside of the org. His best chance is to mend fences with NYR show up to training camp ready to compete. Otherwise stay in Europe and make a nice career out of it over there. Still some money to be made.
 

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At the end of the day for a 21 year old top 10 pick if he can’t produce at the SHL level there really isn’t much lower for him to go. So this shouldn’t be exciting it should be considered the minimum requirement for him to continue as a pro hockey player. I don’t think his value is growing outside of the org. His best chance is to mend fences with NYR show up to training camp ready to compete. Otherwise stay in Europe and make a nice career out of it over there. Still some money to be made.

I would bet good money that there are currently a multitude of NHL players who would struggle to put up the same number of points Lias has in his short time in the SHL. This isn't the ECHL we're talking about.
 

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I would bet good money that there are currently a multitude of NHL players who would struggle to put up the same number of points Lias has in his short time in the SHL. This isn't the ECHL we're talking about.

I think if Andersson cured cancer right now, we'd still have to throw a "yeah, but" into the sentence.

I get it. Some people don't like the pick. That's cool. The way he left was not cool. Totally understood.

But at some point, everything he's doing needn't require a qualifier. It's like people literally go out of their way to remind us that they've never been big fans, as if anyone could possibly forget.
 

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I think if Andersson cured cancer right now, we'd still have to throw a "yeah, but" into the sentence.

I get it. Some people don't like the pick. That's cool. The way he left was not cool. Totally understood.

But at some point, everything he's doing needn't require a qualifier. It's like people literally go out of their way to remind us that they've never been big fans, as if anyone could possibly forget.
I think the other side of the coin is also there. He hasn’t done anything to prove he belongs in our organization @ the pro level. He can play there and we knew that. But playing in Sweden & having a ‘nice little pro career there’ holds zero value to the NYR and we as fans.

He was our highest pick in a while to that point and we all had hoped that he would be a key piece moving forward and the disappointment there will linger no matter what because of the other massive misses in Top-10s we’ve had over the years (decades).
 
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At the end of the day for a 21 year old top 10 pick if he can’t produce at the SHL level there really isn’t much lower for him to go. So this shouldn’t be exciting it should be considered the minimum requirement for him to continue as a pro hockey player. I don’t think his value is growing outside of the org. His best chance is to mend fences with NYR show up to training camp ready to compete. Otherwise stay in Europe and make a nice career out of it over there. Still some money to be made.

yes, he basically restored some of the value he lost. But it will take a team that really wants him to get us good return back.
 

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I think the other side of the coin is also there. He hasn’t done anything to prove he belongs in our organization @ the pro level. He can play there and we knew that. But playing in Sweden & having a ‘nice little pro career there’ holds zero value to the NYR and we as fans.

He was our highest pick in a while to that point and we all had hoped that he would be a key piece moving forward and the disappointment there will linger no matter what because of the other massive misses in Top-10s we’ve had over the years (decades).

I get that, but at what point is that understood and does it not have to be the "yeah but" in every conversation?

I think it stands out more because it's not a new thing either. It's existing in one form or another, literally, since 2017. So it kind of becomes like the boy who cried wolf a little bit for some people.

"Well, I'm only saying this because of x, y, and z."

"Well, no. You were doing the same thing in 2017, or 2018, or 2019. So it's not just because of this x, y, and z. It's you literally seeking out any opportunity to do so."
 

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I don’t think anyone doubted that he could play at the SHL level. He did it as a barely 18 year old centering a second line on a championship level team. So going back as a 21 year old and putting up points isn’t going to turn any heads.

it’s can he play at an NHL pace. That’s all anyone cares about on this side of the pond. Until and or if he ever proves that remains to be seen. So far he hasn’t.
 
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