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dotcommunism

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Is the one dotcom posted the ASK cut off?

I keep hearing people say on Twitter that the walk away point is if 3.5m+ is AWARDED (which won't be in McCabe's case anyways).
There is no ask cut-off. $4.3 whatever million for the award is the cut-off for walking away. Anyone citing $3.5M is not reading through the CBA thoroughly enough, since they're missing this:

12.10
(d) The dollar amount of $3,500,000 set forth in each of paragraphs (a) and (b) above shall be increased on an annual basis at the same percentage rate of annual increase as the Average League Salary, with the first such increase occurring based upon a comparison of the 2014/15 Average League Salary to the 2013/14 Average League Salary. By way of example, if the Average League Salary for the 2014/15 League Year has increased by ten (10) percent from the Average League Salary for the 2013/14 League Year, then the figure of $3,500,000 stated in paragraphs (a) and (b) above shall be increased by ten (10) percent to $3,850,000.


That's how we get a cut-off just below $4.4M
 

Husko

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Has the NHL ever employed the arbitration style of forcing the arbitrator to pick one side or the other, no going in the middle? Such a setup is used to encourage both sides to be more reasonable in their proposals.
 

WeDislikeEich

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So I assume Ullmark’s arbitration hearing happened.

2 of 3 went to arb. so far.

Guessing mccabe’s will too with his reported ask being so high.
 

La Cosa Nostra

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No, as @dotcommunism mentioned, his ask is right below the walk away cut off.
Gotcha, thanks. Is this something new with the most recent CBA ? I remember the Sabres walking away from Dumont and his deal was only 2.9 mil. Unless it is the same rule and due to inflation 2.9 was equivalent to 4.4 today.
 

Buffaloed

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Arbitration Breakdown: Linus Ullmark
David Rittich is cited as a comparable. He settled for 2 years at $2,750,000 before his hearing
The predicted award:
The Sabres pulled out a surprise against Rodrigues, but don’t expect them to do it again. Anticipate a potential award to land somewhere in the $2.1-2.3MM range.
 

SundherDome

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The arbitrator’s decision is binding and final. However, teams have “Walk-Away Rights” when the player elects arbitration. Teams cannot exercise these rights more than once per year (they can exercise this right twice in a year where three or four arbitration awards have been assessed to their players, but this is a very rare occurrence). If the award issued is for one-year and $3.5 million or greater, the team can (within 48 hours) tell the player, NHLPA, and NHL in writing that it does not intend to go forward with the award. Once this is done, the player is considered an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA). But, if the award is for two years and $3.5 million per year or greater and the team decides to walk-away, the player will enter into a one-year deal for the compensation set by the arbitrator, and the player will be considered a UFA after the season. It should be noted that the $3.5 million threshold will be increased at the same rate as the Average League Salary every season (this year's threshold is $4,084,219).
Found this article from 2017
 

Buffaloed

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The arbitrator’s decision is binding and final. However, teams have “Walk-Away Rights” when the player elects arbitration. Teams cannot exercise these rights more than once per year (they can exercise this right twice in a year where three or four arbitration awards have been assessed to their players, but this is a very rare occurrence). If the award issued is for one-year and $3.5 million or greater, the team can (within 48 hours) tell the player, NHLPA, and NHL in writing that it does not intend to go forward with the award. Once this is done, the player is considered an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA). But, if the award is for two years and $3.5 million per year or greater and the team decides to walk-away, the player will enter into a one-year deal for the compensation set by the arbitrator, and the player will be considered a UFA after the season. It should be noted that the $3.5 million threshold will be increased at the same rate as the Average League Salary every season (this year's threshold is $4,084,219).
Found this article from 2017

Links with updated info are a few posts up
Let's Talk Contracts - RFA Qualifying Offers Due June 25th, 2019
 

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