Lets talk about William Nylander.

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  1. Krazy

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    They aren’t even comparable in the season though. Ehlers is his comparable
     
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    Man, a lot of people are quick to push the panic button in this thread. Boston is a very good playoff team and they have played that way. What has transpired so far is disappointing but hardly cause to throw any of our young players under a bus.
     
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    Not in the playoffs though. Kessel was always willing to do the little things in the playoffs, he might not do in the regular season, like take a hit or backcheck. Pity he didn't play more playoff games for the Leafs.
     
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    The only time fans are happy is when they are tanking. That way they don’t have to care if we lose. People here are so embarrassing. It’s just nuts. Matthews was flying. It didn’t go for him. We are playing a desperate team that is on a tear who have lost for like 7 straight years. We are a new team learning. It’s all ok.
     
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    Pastrnak and Ehlers are making $6.6 and $6 million respectively on their second contracts.
     
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    Kessel is also thriving more in a sheltered role alongside or behind Crosby and Malkin. And we need Matthews and Marner to also be better, particularly Matthews who has been a disappointment.
     
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    Ya pasta is only on 6 though. Willy has not put up comparable stats to pasta in the reg or playoffs.

    5x5
    6 x 5.5
    7 x 6
    8x 6.5

    Your choice willy
     
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    Why give the choice? Take 5x5
     
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    I would want longer my self. He is a 60 pt player.
     
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    Did the complaining stop after the win?
     
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    This forum is so bipolar, that it's crazy.
     
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    Nylander definitely looked the better of the 2 tonight.

    Grass is always greener I guess.
     
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    Obviously you take the longer deal for a little more cap. 8 x 6.5
     
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    Thought Willy looked teriffic last night.:thumbu:
     
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    Reasoning...

    RFA have become now more expensive than UFA. If he is a 60pts guy with Matthews and will have his own line, that would indicate he will be a 50-55pts C or perhaps 65 if lucky. So you buy his RFA years out for cheap.

    8 x 6.5 = 52m
    5 x 5 = 25m

    You are now paying more than double the money over the term. That's 27million cap dollars that you could use to make a better team wasted on 3extra yrs. All the indicators are pointing that the economy is headed for a downturn and the media deals have not been very profitable. This means that the CBA will likely be slashing salaries. The new salaries will then be less and so will Williams next contract. It could very well be a signing of a 5y x 6m even by then if the economy downturns.
     
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    What happens when Nylander hits 80 points and wants 9 million in 5 years time?
    You look pretty stupid for not locking him up long term.
     
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    Worth the gamble that he won't. Matthews will chew up most time and if you think we are going to have perennial 3x 80pts+++ guys the odds you're the one that isn't looking at it realistically.
     
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    I think Nylander is the most likely of the 3 to sign a bridge deal.
     
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    You're right, but in their defense a lot of that has to do with Gauthier not panning out so far. So they had to look elsewhere since they thrive on running 4 lines. IMO, we should have re-signed Boyle but whatever that's water under the bridge.

    Definitely hurts losing 2nd round picks when we've gotten lucky with Dermott, makes you wonder what if? But you can't think like that because there is no guarantee that the 2nd round pick will be a homerun. You give yourself the best chance to win in the current year, and Boyle, Moore, Plekanec does that for now. With Kadri suspended having Moore/Plekanec as options has really helped so far.

    Going forward we should do our best to avoid dealing 2nd round picks. Hopefully Goat turns a corner for next year, that'd be sweet.
     
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    The Leafs did pretty good in the 2006 draft. But after that, take ALL the draft picks 20th or under. 2012 Connor Brown. 2008 Jimmy Hayes. 2007 Carl Gunnarsson
    ... it really doesn't amount to much. And really, one could even suggest they could be replaced by equal caliber players through UFA. Really the NHL draft usually
    comes down to top 10 players are somewhat of a no-miss. And then you're really relying on luck.
     
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    On a "Good" or "Normal" NHL teams your first two rounds are your money rounds. After that who knows. Just like a study determined if you are picking late 1st or in the 2nd, go with the best D's available (unless a no brainer presents itself).

    Dermott is looking like he could very well be a top pairing guy.
    Lilj is also showing signs of this

    Both picked past 15 and under 60th.
     
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    Willy looked good.
    He has alot more to give.
    Kappy on the other hand was flying last night.
     
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    A 60 point rookie campaign is a pretty good indicator he’s going to hit PPG at some point in his career.

    Nothing about his production shows it’s unsustainable, the opposite in fact given how ineffective that 2nd pp unit is.

    Smart thing for management to do with hiM And Marner is try to lock them up now on longer deals at cheaper caphit than end up paying them 8-9 million in a few years
     
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    Yeah I agree. I've always been a Gauthier supporter but he hasn't progressed as they thought he would. I think it was a tough year for him with his injury and still have hope for him but his time is running out. He's turning 23 on the 27th this month and needs a new contract in the summer.

    If they do sign Gauthier to a short contract, with Plekanec and Moore leaving just give Gauthier the 4th line to him and see how he does for the full year. Make or break time for him.
     

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