Leon Draisaitl the most underrated player in the NHL?

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

The 2.01 number is his pts/60 just at 5-on-5. That means over a full season he would score 39 or 40 points when both teams are at full strength. This doesn't account for points at other even strength situations like 4-on-4 and 3-on-3.

Players who scored between 35 and 42 points at 5-on-5 last season: Stone, Wheeler, Kessel, Tarasenko, Radulov, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Voracek, Tavares, Duchene, Schenn, Monahan, Ehlers, Connor, Getzlaf, Backstrom, Forsberg, Marner, Keller, Pavelski, Crosby, E. Kane, Laine

All terrible 2nd and 3rd line players for sure!!

 

[Fourier]

And I’m using the numbers provided by Alan Mitchell (Lowetide) of the Athletic.

Posted on July 12

“Draisaitl 498 with McDavid 2.65, 628 minutes without 2.01 P/60”

This is 5v5.

So....go tell him he’s incorrect.

And if you go with all ES minutes over the last 2 years Draisaitl has played 1165 minutes at ES away from McDavid. He has 14 goals and 44 points for 2.27 pts/60. Tavares over the same period was about 2.32, Eichel is 2.17, Matthews is quite a bit higher at 2,60 but he also has the advantage of much better support than Leon away from McDavid. But offensively for me Matthews is the better player.

 

[Tavares to Marner]

Not even close

Backstrom is

go check the top 10 centers better than Tavares

somehow you'll see Barkov and Schief before him

 

[Tavares to Marner]

McDavid



Matthews

Draisital
Marner

Nylander

 

[scallionjj11]

With reasonable arguments to tell you that no he is not underrated.... along with every other fanbase saying the same thing?

So would you say he's overrated ?

Or are you just holding a grudge against Edmonton?

 

[LuGBuG]

So would you say he's overrated ?

Or are you just holding a grudge against Edmonton?

I think he is right where he should be, although overpaid. Just because you clearly hold a grudge against Anaheim doesn't mean everyone else does. Why would I hold a grudge against a team we beat?

 

[Skolman]

Same tier (slightly lower) as, Mathews, Eichel, Marner, currently. Could/probably change later as they reach their potential.

wtf, Marner?

 

[scallionjj11]

I think he is right where he should be, although overpaid. Just because you clearly hold a grudge against Anaheim doesn't mean evecuryone else does. Why would I hold a grudge against a team we beat?

Hhhhmmmmm i don't know.. maybe because those two teams are in the same division. I hold no grudge towards Anaheim at all.

 

[KPower]

He's not overpaid.

He gets an extra $2 million per year to live in Edmonton.

 

[Skolman]

I find it absolutely amusing that Leafs fans often say Centre>Winger(which is correct most of the time) when discussing guys like Matthews & Tavares. Of course that doesn't apply when we are talking Drai vs Marner though.

 

[ijuka]

I think Marner should hit 70 points before being discussed with Draisaitl.

 

[Skolman]

He's not overpaid.

He gets an extra $2 million per year to live in Edmonton.

Ah so he should be getting paid 6.5 mil per? I'm assuming you also think Marner should get 6 mil per, Nylander 5.5 mil per? Matthews 7.5 mil per?

I'll be sure to remind you how Dubas overpaid heavily for those 3 when the time comes.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He's not overpaid.

He gets an extra $2 million per year to live in Edmonton.

city joke

extra fresh

 

[joe dirte]

Let us know when Matthews faces the special attention McDavid did in those playoffs while winning a round lol. Draisaitl also creamed Matthews playoff performances so far while centering his own line.

It's a shame he's been subpar nearly all of his career otherwise.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

It's a shame he's been subpar nearly all of his career otherwise.

If subpar is performing better than future hall of famer and multiple cup winners Marner, Matthews and Nylander, I'll take it.

 

[joe dirte]

So you don't think Matthews career highs of ~60 points in Toronto wouldn't drop in Edmonton playing with Draisaitls wingers? Interesting.

Matthews has proven he can centre his own line and put up points (and tonnes of goals). Draisaitl hasn't.

Nothing you can say beyond speculation will change that.

The funny thing is, in Matthews first year with the Leafs, everybody talked of them being as bad as the oilers. Then he scored 40 goals and 69 points. Now all of a sudden matthews only scores because hes a leaf, and they're such a strong team? Hf posters are schitzo.

Then you see threads on who are contenders, and you see ckaims about all the holes the leafs have and how they're not really a go9d team.

 

[joe dirte]

Good thing he hasn’t produced 40 points on a second line yet.

Even though you’re acting like he has....and yet we’re supposed to get back to you when he ecplises some marker you set?

Okay then.

And you get back to me when you get a player good enough to make the oilers better than a one player basement team.

 

[joe dirte]

The 2.01 number is his pts/60 just at 5-on-5. That means over a full season he would score 39 or 40 points when both teams are at full strength. This doesn't account for points at other even strength situations (4-on-4 and 3-on-3).

Players who scored between 35 and 42 points at 5-on-5 last season: Wheeler, Kessel, Tarasenko, Radulov, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Voracek, Tavares, Duchene, Schenn, Monahan, Ehlers, Connor, Backstrom, Marner, Keller, Pavelski, Crosby, E. Kane, Laine

Edit: removed Getzlaf, Forsberg, and Stone because they all missed signifcant time due to injury.

And how many have never scored better than that, while not playing beside mcdavid, in their career.

I'll wait for your abbreviated list. Of none of those players.

 

[joe dirte]

If subpar is performing better than future hall of famer and multiple cup winners Marner, Matthews and Nylander, I'll take it.

Except, he hasnt. His career best while not beside mcdavid is worse than every one of those players worst.

 

[koyvoo]

No. He is not.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Except, he hasnt. His career best while not beside mcdavid is worse than every one of those players worst.

Nice excuses. Matthews career totals away from a top tier team would be even more abysmal for a so called generational player.

 

[Del Preston]

And how many have never scored better than that, while not playing beside mcdavid, in their career.

I'll wait for your abbreviated list. Of none of those players.

First off, what?

And what does McDavid have to do with anything in that post?

 

[LuGBuG]

Hhhhmmmmm i don't know.. maybe because those two teams are in the same division. I hold no grudge towards Anaheim at all.

90 percent of your threads either bash the Ducks or put them in unfair polls you know they will lose and every Anaheim fan on here knows it

 

[joe dirte]

I find it absolutely amusing that Leafs fans often say Centre>Winger(which is correct most of the time) when discussing guys like Matthews & Tavares. Of course that doesn't apply when we are talking Drai vs Marner though.

You're referring to a depth centre vs a top winger.

 

[Del Preston]

You're referring to a depth centre vs a top winger.

Lol, "depth centre"

Every time there is a thread about Draisaitl you come in and post the same nonsense that is easily refuted by actual statistics. It's borderline trolling at this point. Give it up.