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Player Discussion: Leo Komarov
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Back in the day, Rick DiPietro was asked to be on The Bachelor. That would have been interesting.
notDatsyuk
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That line was our best line last night, and Wally didn't look out of place.
Pure Slaughter Value
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Rick was and is still dreamy, save for the jackets he wears when he does any commentating. I could see him being quite the douche on that show (I mean, how could you not?). The few episodes I've been made to watch made we want to cut myself.
I couldn't find it before but there's a clip of Barzal chirping at a ref that players shouldn't hit him in his face because it's a "GQ face". Thought that was pretty funny.
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To provide some context to the discussion about Leo The First Liner.
Our 1st line in 10 games prior to Lee's injury:
Feb 20 - Mar 09
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[/TBODY]Our 1st line in 10 games with Leo:
Mar 20 - Apr 09
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[/TBODY]A full 1.5 min less even strength time for Barzal (1:09 min for Eberle), but the scoring doesn't miss a bit.
Meanwhile, all 3 goals against by Leo were surrendered in the last 4 games:
• Giroux tying goal in the first 3:2 SO win, with Komarov on 4th line sparing Martin after PP,
• A fluke Aube-Kubel goal in the second 3:2 SO win,
• Laf goal yesterday.
So, one can argue that Laf goal was the first "real goal" scored upon Komarov-Barzal-Eberle line in 10 games.
In those 10 games, Leo leads all forwards in even strength goal differential per 60 min and leads by far:
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[/TBODY]To conclude:
I (as most of us, fans) was furious once the lineup against Phillies was announced. However, after some thought and stats browsing, I believe now I can understand Barry's logic: Leo provided stability to the 1st line in the wake of Lee's injury. For a team that heavily relies on "system", it's huge. Leo despite his limited abilities allowed Barzal and Ebs to continue as almost nothing happened. Last year we had that type of smooth transition with Greene in for Boychuk, but had no answer when Pelech and then Cizikas went down and almost missed playoffs.
Our 1st line in 10 games prior to Lee's injury:
Feb 20 - Mar 09
| Lee | Barzal | Eberle | |
| EV TOI/GP | 15:34 | 17:08 | 15:05 |
| EV GF:GA | 12:6 | 12:5 | 12:5 |
Mar 20 - Apr 09
| Leo | Barzal | Eberle | |
| EV TOI/GP | 11:40 | 15:38 | 13:56 |
| EV GF:GA | 10:3 | 13:9 | 11:6 |
Meanwhile, all 3 goals against by Leo were surrendered in the last 4 games:
• Giroux tying goal in the first 3:2 SO win, with Komarov on 4th line sparing Martin after PP,
• A fluke Aube-Kubel goal in the second 3:2 SO win,
• Laf goal yesterday.
So, one can argue that Laf goal was the first "real goal" scored upon Komarov-Barzal-Eberle line in 10 games.
In those 10 games, Leo leads all forwards in even strength goal differential per 60 min and leads by far:
| Komarov | 3.18 |
| Eberle | 1.85 |
| Beauvillier | 1.82 |
| Bailey | 1.34 |
| Barzal | 1.34 |
| Nelson | 0.34 |
| Cizikas | 0 |
| Dal Colle | 0 |
| Martin | 0 |
| Pageau | 0 |
| Wahlstrom | -0.59 |
| Clutterbuck | -1.28 |
| Zajac | -2.15 |
| Johnston | -2.61 |
| Bellows | -2.71 |
| Palmieri | -4.13 |
I (as most of us, fans) was furious once the lineup against Phillies was announced. However, after some thought and stats browsing, I believe now I can understand Barry's logic: Leo provided stability to the 1st line in the wake of Lee's injury. For a team that heavily relies on "system", it's huge. Leo despite his limited abilities allowed Barzal and Ebs to continue as almost nothing happened. Last year we had that type of smooth transition with Greene in for Boychuk, but had no answer when Pelech and then Cizikas went down and almost missed playoffs.
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You should post this on Reddit because the people there are having a conniption.
Kevin27NYI
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He has been good there. It's weird when people blame the wingers for when Barzal isn't doing well when it is his doing. Even Lee was getting shit last year. Barzy is gonna Barzy. He slips into being a non shooting perimeter player every now and then. Bellows/Lee/Leo etc aint gonna help or make it worse. That's him.
Kevin27NYI
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I really think Leo gets too much hate. Was funny watching Panarin put up points with Blackwell and Strome and hearing complaints on Barzal having to deal with Leo on his line.
Nice work on this. Barzal with 9 goals against and Leo with only 3 is pretty eye opening. Out of curiosity, I also checked Barzal's with/without stats for the season and at 5 on 5 with Komarov, Barzal's GF% is a staggering 81.82%, as opposed to 51.72% without Komarov, and 67.65 % with Lee. Granted, that is skewed by the 5 point game, but even his xGF% is higher at 62.31% with Komarov vs. 57.68% without Komarov, and 59.63% with Lee. Also, his goals against per 60 drops from 1.89 with Lee to 1.12 with Komarov.
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danteipp
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Hit up Isles Twitter too, because people are losing their minds, lol.
Although I am having some fun harassing ignorant Rags fans, who can't comprehend that they aren't getting an Eichel or Barkov for garbage trade packages build around Kraptsov, Lindgren, Georgiev and a bunch of other broken toys.
Unless they are willing to move Laf as a prime chip, or build a package around say Kaako (who also has a ton of questions) and at least one of Miller or Lundqvist (and they really can't afford to move either), Los Angeles can blow them out of the water with their stable of prospects.
Good point on Komarov's work on the 1st line. With the work he has done so far, I can understand that he doesn't deserve to lose his place in the line-up. But I still wonder if a player like Pageau could not do a similar job within this trio while creating more offense. I imagine that could happen if the Komarov-Barzal-Eberle trio ever end up having a bad time.
This line-up would be our best I think (come to think of it, Andrew Gross was perhaps not wrong with this formation quite close to his!)
Pageau-Barzal-Eberle
Beauvillier-Nelson-Wahlstrom
Bailey-Zajac-Palmieri
The middle six should be seen as 2a and 2b.
This line-up would be our best I think (come to think of it, Andrew Gross was perhaps not wrong with this formation quite close to his!)
Pageau-Barzal-Eberle
Beauvillier-Nelson-Wahlstrom
Bailey-Zajac-Palmieri
The middle six should be seen as 2a and 2b.
TheWhiteWhale30
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You comparing Blackwell and Strome to Leo ? Lol You realize Strome is 10x the producer Leo is and Blackwell is bottom 6 forward at worst. Leo is a 4th liner at best. Only reason he isn’t there is because we have Martin Zeeker and clutter
I’m not saying Leo hasn’t been okay there, but if you are comparing the 3... there is no comparison. Panarin is also much better than Barzal lol Let’s not forget that part
Blackwell is a 28 year old who prior to this season had never scored more than 3 goals in a season, and never even scored 20 goals in the AHL. Comparing Leo and Eberle to Strome and Blackwell is a pretty fair comparison.
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No way lol I hate to even admit it but Strome is far better then Eberle at this point and Blackwell is better then Leo. Blackwell may not have a long track record but he has skill and appears to have figured it out as a late bloomer. He was near a p/pg last year in the AHL and in his last 58 NHL games between this year and last year, he has 27 points. Leo hasn’t been even half as productive as that since he was on the leafs in 2015 lol
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Of course Leo hasn't been that productive, he has been in the NHL, not the AHL. But that you suddenly changed your opinions on the offensive talent of these two guys once they started playing with Panarin, kind of proves the point about Panarin.
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Zajac was great tonight, 66% on draws and a menace on the forecheck. Definitely better than Komarov imo
i thought Leo played all right on the 1st line. i remember hearing that he was versatile, and he has been for us. i'm glad that we have him for the run. he is a warrior.
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One game. Over the four game span from March 29 to April 6, Leo was 73.3% on draws.
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I just posted this in the trade thread. Be careful of dismissing character players like Leo. He changes the personality of the Isles for the positive. He has been very much part of the character culture change on the Isles. I would be very leary of changing this at this point of the Isles most successful season under Lou and Barry now. Isles are not about sexy EA sports GM'ing. They are about real true character that wins games. This is why The Leo's, Martin's, Clutterbuck's, Cizikas', Pelech's, Mayfield's, Lee's, Pageau's all fit in. Not the flashiest group, but they sure know how to spell W.
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I have no idea how that is all you got from what I said lol The stats I quoted were the most important part.
All of the stats you quoted were either from the AHL or were primarily from playing with Panarin. Looking at just their NHL numbers last season, Blackwell's point production was pretty comparable to Leo's -- Blackwell played at a 30 point pace vs Leo's 24 point pace, when projected to 82 games for both. So unless you were calling 6 points over 82 games a notable difference in production, it seems like you were focusing on AHL production to try to claim he was notably more productive prior to playing with Panarin and Strome.
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TheWhiteWhale30
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@Seph I forgot to quote lol Blackwell was also near a p/pg in the A. You put Komarov down there and I doubt he is even close to .5 p/pg. blackwell has been figuring it out since last year, while Komarov is getting worse. They aren’t close at this point. Blackwell is superior to Komarov at this point. Hence why one is in the lineup and one isn’t. They tried Leo with Barzy and it didn’t work. Blackwell on the other hand is thriving.
