Series Talk: Leafs vs Jackets- Series Preview and Discussion - MOD WARNING POST #816

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I know this isn’t completely finalized, and it’s still some time away, but what else are we going to talk about related to hockey? Some other team board’s already started this thread so may as well. I will go over every team of how they stack up with one another, including each line. For the Leafs, I will be looking at the stats from when Keefe was hired for more relevance and accuracy.

Toronto Maple Leafs

Overall Record: 36-25-9 (tied for 12th in PTS%)
After Coaching Change: 27-15-5 (8th in PTS%)
Columbus Blue Jackets
Overall Record: 33-22-15 (tied for 12th PTS%}

Offense

5 on 5


5 on 5

Maple Leafs

Blue Jackets

GF/60

2.83(4th)

2.16(26th)

CF/60

58.74(7th)

54.1(23rd)

SCF/60

30.63(2nd)

24.72(25th)

HCF/60

12.08(6th)

9.06(29th)

xGF/60

2.59(2nd)

2.2(tied for 16th)
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Not surprises here, Leafs are the superior offensive team by a mile. They score a lot more and generate a lot more. The Jackets that are not known for their offense, is showed well here. The Leafs have the better offensive players but we already knew that, and might not be the aspect that decided the series.

Power Play


PP

Maple Leafs

Blue Jackets

PP%

26.4(2nd)

16.4%(24th)

CF/60

93.23(19th)

83.96(29th)

SCF/60

52.67(10th)

39.5(29th)

HCF/60

17.8(23rd)

14.51(30th)

xGF/60

6.52(17th)

5.63(27th)
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Leafs have the better numbers on the PP as you should expect, but they are average at best for a team with offensive stars. Don’t let the ranking fool you, it is a result of a high shooting % In fact, if not for a recent climb, The Leafs numbers were where the Jackets numbers were which are awful in every metric. Jackets have even worse luck offensively on the PP by league rank, and would be helpful if they can improve it a bit. Getting back their injured players will help. I’m interested at what Sheldon Keefe does on the PP. Does he put Rielly on the 1st unit in place of Barrie? If Sandin plays, does he stay on the 2nd PP? It’s unlikely he removes any of the big 4 from the 1st unit, but what does the 2nd unit look like? If Keefe plays Robertson, does he play on that unit? There are lots of questions, but simply put, the PP numbers need to be better than they are. Leafs get the advantage, but it’s not an amazing PP.

Defence

5 on 5


5 on 5 Numbers

Maple Leafs

Blue Jackets

GA/60

2.68(20th)

2.11(5th)

CA/60

55.68(15th)

56.06(17th)

SCA/60

27.5(18th)

24.89(10th)

HDCA/60

11.14(17th)

8.82(2nd)

xGA/60

2.33(tied for 15th)

2.04(3rd)

SV%:

91.29(23rd)

92.81(5th)
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I am going to say this again. Leafs aren’t as bad defensively as they are made out to be, and the numbers support this. They are however average at best, and the will face a team who plays solid defence, and takes away the prime scoring chances well. The question is will they be able to slow down a team like the Leafs, who generates offense at a great level. Can the Leafs defence hold against a poor offense, but one that will be mostly healthy? The Jackets also got much better goaltending then the Leafs.
Columbus gets the advantage here by a decent amount

Penalty Killing


PK Numbers

Maple Leafs

Blue Jackets

PK%

80.9(12th)

81.7%(10th)

CA/60

89.25(10th)

84.13(5th)

SCA/60

44.17(6th)

43.06(4th)

HDCA/60

15.63(3rd)

13.82(1st)

xGA/60

5.5(3rd)

5.31(1st)

SV%

85.81(18th)

86.75(13th)
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These are 2 excellent PK teams. They don’t give up many shots or chances. Maple Leafs under Keefe have been a really good PK team, and this may surprise some people. The Jackets are truly elite though, and building off their defence at 5 on 5, they don’t give up much. The question for the Jackets will be can they continue it against a team with offensive stars, even though the Leafs PP numbers aren’t exactly convincing. The question is will Andersen perform, because he is the only reason the Leafs PK% is down.
I will give the Blue Jackets the edge here, but only slightly.
Overall just by looking at the stats, this is a good matchup where whatever one team is good at, and bad at, the other team is the opposite. Leafs are a great offensive team and can score with anyone, but their going to face a solid defensive team. On the other hand, Jackerts can’t do much on offense which might be helped with getting healthy, and the Leafs aren’t bad defensively. The special teams battle should be interesting. Leafs have the more dangerous personnel on the PP by a wide margin, but their underlying numbers aren’t great despite the high SH%, where the Jackets have an elite PK. The Jackets have an atrocious PP going against a good PK as well. The key for Toronto is if the PP catches fire. If it does, I think the Jackets might be in trouble. For Columbus, If they can get some production on the PP, and keep up their structural play and limit chances, that could put the series in their favour. Columbus will get their chances against an inconsistent defensive team, and if they start scoring, Leafs will be in tough.

Line Matchups (Potentially)
Forwards


Line 1

Hyman-Matthews-Marner

Nyquist-PLD-Atkinson

TOI

374.02

103.04

CF%

52.31%

50.48%

SCI%

55.77%

48.08%

HDCI%

55.36%

46.88%

XGF%

56.71%

50.60%

OSZ%

56.50%

62.50%
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I think Keefe will put Matthews with Marner to start, but could change things up if he doesn’t like what he sees. This trio has been a solid line since Keefe first put them together, despite Marner really struggling at times this season. They have been a solid possession line, and controlled the play when on the ice. Hyman at times is what makes the line continue to tick even when the other 2 are off. There is some defensive issues usually from lacklustre plays from Marner, but he can turn his season around with a good playoffs. Keefe might go back with Nylander-Matthews as he did in the last game before the stoppage, but we haven’t been seen them consistently with another winger. The player that played with them the most is Johnsson who won’t be available, and followed by Kapanen who looked lost beside them, but Kapanen really transformed himself so maybe he works this time.
For Columbus, the forward lines are mere guesses at this point according to their board, but we might see this line to begin though. They have been okay as a line by the numbers, but at best break even with their competition. They also haven’t played enough minutes together to form a good conclusion though. One logical switch that should made is Bjorkstrand for Atkinson. The line’s TOI is about the same, but with Bjorkstrand, Nyquist-PLD have dominated with their xGF% at near 65%, and the zone starts are almost identical.


Line 2

Nylander-Tavares-Mikhavev

Texier-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand

TOI

10:42

32:27

CF%

69.57%

60.38%

SCF%

69.23%

57.89%

HDCF%

66.67%

80.00%

xGF%

56.25%

60.92%

OSZ%

71.43%

60.00%
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The winger beside these two is just a guess, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Keefe put Mikhavev in a top 6 role, and this line is the only option if the top line stays together. Keefe really loves Mikhavev, so he might put him in the fire even coming off a serious injury. The numbers don’t mean anything with only 11 minutes on the ice together. If not Mikhavev, Keefe also put Kerfoot on the ice, and they played nearly 200 minutes with each other. This was one of the few criticisms people had of Keefe, where he continusly played Kerfoot on the line, despite him being better at centre. The line however was terrific by the numbers, and created a lot but also gave up a lot of goals mostly due to goaltending. It’s not my favourite line but Keefe might go with it again at some point.
This one I have no real idea on what this line will look, especially if Bjorkstrand is put on the top line


Line 3

Engvall-Kerfoot-Kapanen

Foligno-Jenner-Anderson

TOI

76:00

63.48

CF%

61.07%

45.53%

SCF%

59.49%

43.14%

HCDF%

58.82%

42.86%

xGF%

58.37%

44.80%

OSZ%

48.15%

42.31%
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This line was amazing when they played, so people didn’t like when they kept getting broken up. They might have won 2 games on their own. The TOI isn’t overly big, but it’s enough to tell us they dominated, even with their zone starts not being overly favourable. This line should be kept if the season resumed, and even experiment with It more if there are warm up games before the play in round.
The big question for the Jackets is will Anderson play. His timeline is apparently mid july, so he probably will I have to guess, but if not, you might see the young Bemstorm play on the 3rd line.


Line 4

Clifford-Gauthier-Spezza

Robinson-Shore-Nash

TOI

26:31

3:37

CF%

40.43%

57.14%

SCF%

35.71%

33.33%

HCDF%

37.50%

0%

xGF%

41.90%

33.18%

OSZ%

25.00%

100%
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This line is awful. They weren’t good at all, and clearly put the team in a disadvantage, but it’s only 26 minutes, so maybe this changes. One of the issues with the Leafs was depth scoring, and this line won’t help, so Keefe needs to figure this out. Malgin might get in a game here as well.
I’m not sure what the 4th line will look like, but it might include 2 of these 3. The Jackets have multiple players who can play different positions, so that complicates guessing the lines.

Depth Options for Toronto

Malgin
Korshkov
Brooks
Aberg
Petan
Depth Options for Columbus
Bemstorm
Gerbe
Stenlund
Matteau
Lilja

Defense


Defensive Pair 1

Rielly-Ceci

Werenski-Jones

TOI

145:31

763.36

CF%

46.74%

50.25%

SCF%

46.72%

48.51%

HDCF%

44.44%

49.12%

xGF%

48.72%

51.08%

OSZ%

46.15%

57.89%
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I don’t like it, but I think we see the Rielly-Ceci pair again at least to start. I’m not sure Keefe has much of a choice, so hard to blame him. However, the results are in the numbers and the eye test. Rielly can’t defend his blueline, and Ceci just makes strange decisions with and without the puck. I guess you could shelter them more, but the starts aren’t bad right now, and you need to play one of your best defensemen. The decision on who to put Rielly with should be interesting. I don’t see Keefe scratching Ceci with him being used like a top 4 defenseman, while he was here. Keefe could go all offense with Rielly-Barrie again, but even against a poor offensive team, that’s still not a good idea for long stretches.
This is the key for the Jackets and mainly Jones. If he plays as well as he is capable, this could seriously have a big swing in the series. Werenski provides great support to him offensively, but the stabilizer and leader is Jones. The numbers aren’t great analytically, and the pair played sheltered offensive minutes, but this is still the best pair for the Jackets.


Defensive Pair 2

Muzzin-Holl

Gavrikov-Savard

TOI

456.18

751.37

CF%

53.01%

47.53%

SCF%

54.27%

50%

HDCF%

55.56%

48.68%

xGF%

56.56%

50.67%

OSZ%

39.69%

40.84%
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The Leafs best D pair, and it’s not even close to being a debate. They excelled in a shutdown role, and were amazing even with tough zone starts. They have great chemistry with one another, and you could ride them in a game. Muzzin is the engine of this defence, and is the glue that prevents it from falling apart. Holl has had a solid season as he has got more duty under Keefe. He struggled a little bit down the stretch, but having Muzzin by his side should help him again. If the Leafs are going to do something defensively and be better than average, it might come down to these two.
Another set in stone pairing. Just like their counterpart, this is the defensive shutdown pairing for the Jackets. While their numbers are well below from the Muzzin-Holl pairing, Torts has decided to lean on them defensively, and they are close to break even as a pairing.


Defensive Pair 3

Dermott-Barrie

Murray-Nutivaara

TOI

259.19

78.52

CF%

50.51%

48.39%

SCF%

50.21%

46.58%

HDCF%

52.08%

50%

xGF%

50.53%

53.06%

OSZ%

61.70%

58.70%
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All that’s left is Dermott and Barrie. They played a lot together, and broke even as a pair under heavily sheltered zone starts. We just don’t want them stuck in the defensive zone on a shift. Barrie has produced and struggled defensively which is not a surprise. Dermott was uneven, but he was really solid as the defacto #1 defenseman down the stretch with the injuries. Dermott might get a chance higher in the line up maybe even beside Rielly, but I still have my doubts if Keefe wants to do that.
Sandin could play a factor here, but he will only come in for Ceci, and I’m not sure if Keefe scratches Ceci. Liljegren is also available along with Rosen if need be. Keefe may go with the 7 defensemen route which he did a little bit during the injuries.
This is likely the pairing with Murray a lock, but could see Kukan in for Nutivvara. Their zone starts are shseltered, but not as much as the 3rd pairing for the Leafs. The Jackets pairing is also overall better by a slight margin.
Depth Options for Toronto
Sandin
Liljegren
Rosen
Depth Options for Columbus
Kukan
Peeke
Harrington

Goalies

Starter

Andersen

Merzlikins

GP
ESSV%
HDSV%

52
.918%
.812%

32
.926%
.834%
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There is no question Andersen is starting. However he wasn’t very good this season. He only had one good month which was in November, and cost the team a few games this season under both coaches.
It’s still a question who starts but higher chance its Merzlikins. Just by looking at the numbers, it’s the right choice


Backup

Campbell

Korpisalo

GP
ESSV%
HDSV%

6
.920%
.844%

37
.919%
.818%
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Campbell impressed in the games he played with the Leafs, and if Andersen falters, Keefe may have to make the difficult choice and go with Campbell.
There is still a good chance Korpisalo starts, so hard to say anything definitive right now.

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Columbus this season has sort of reminded me of the islanders last season.

Lost big names to free agency but came back strong and was really helped out by some out standing goaltending. Not really a recipe for long term success Imo.
 

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I respect Columbus as a team.

However if we can’t beat them in a best of 3/5, only sans Johnsson, then I won’t know what to say.

Obligatory; it’s still bs that Should we win, we are facing the top seed next round despite the possibility of not being the lowest seeded team to advance.
 

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Will Columbus be fully healthy? They're kinda scary with a 100% Jones on the back end. They were hanging in there all year despite a shitload of injuries.
 

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I respect Columbus as a team.

However if we can’t beat them in a best of 3/5, only sans Johnsson, then I won’t know what to say.

Obligatory; it’s still bs that Should we win, we are facing the top seed next round despite the possibility of not being the lowest seeded team to advance.
Are facing or maybe facing? I thought this stuff was still up in the air?
 
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I'd reunite last year's dominant Hyman-Tavares-Marner line and stick mikheyev with Matthews-Nylander. Tavares-Marner need Hyman's speed, boardwalk, and net crashing much more than Matthews-Nylander do.

But @stickty111 I have some different numbers than you. Here's the defense pair xgf% I get from naturalstattrick.com and evolvinghockey.com:

Rielly-Barrie 304:58, 54.5xgf% / 304:26, 54.6xgf%
Muzzin-Holl 492:37, 57.9xgf% / 495:34, 57.5xgf%
Dermott-Ceci 189:54, 57.6xgf% / 190:04, 57.1xgf%

Those were the main pairings from when Keefe took over up until the Rielly injury (though initially it was rielly-ceci and dermott-barrie before keefe made a quick change), and they were all pretty dominant and unsurprisingly those 23gms were by far our most dominant 3rd of the season. I would lean to going back to those pairings now that everyone is healthy, though swapping Barrie/Ceci for certain matchups and shifts is a possibility.
 

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I respect Columbus as a team.

However if we can’t beat them in a best of 3/5, only sans Johnsson, then I won’t know what to say.

Obligatory; it’s still bs that Should we win, we are facing the top seed next round despite the possibility of not being the lowest seeded team to advance.

Let's at least first wait to see if there is any hockey at all and then get past CLB before whining about things that may not even happen.

We had a crap season and might have missed the playoffs entirely and if we did get in, we were going to face a tough opponent either way so how big a deal is this really?

Boston is a team that really gets screwed here. They play amazing all season and they lost out on the main reward which is playing game 7 at home, they don't get to play in Boston at all. Plus their momentum is totally gone, they're starting from square one like every other team. Teams take a while to round into form, hence the expression mid-season form so these playoffs will be a huge variance fest. Boston isn't going to be able to reach peak form in a couple of weeks so we should have a better chance of beating them then we would under normal circumstances.

The big losers here IMO are teams like Boston who were on a roll. The increased variance benefits teams the most that weren't looking good and get to regroup and start fresh. We are among those teams so complaining seems silly to me.
 

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Will Columbus be fully healthy? They're kinda scary with a 100% Jones on the back end. They were hanging in there all year despite a shitload of injuries.

Games Missed

Matthews 0 - Dubois 0
Marner 11 --- Atkinson 26
Nylander 2 -- Nyquist 0

Tavares 7 ----- Jenner 0
Hyman 19 ---- Foligno 3
Mikheyev 31 - Bjorkstrand 21

Kerfoot 5 ----- Wennberg 13
Kapanen 1 --- Stenlund ?
Johnsson* 27 - Anderson* 44 (both likely still injured)


Rielly 23 ------- Jones 14
Muzzin 17 ---- Werenski 7

Barrie 0 -------- Savard 2
Ceci 14 ---------- Murray 43

Holl 0 ------------ Gavrikov 0
Dermott 14 ---- Nutivaara ?
 
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Are facing or maybe facing? I thought this stuff was still up in the air?

The format was approved by the players.

there’s still things to get worked out to get hockey back, and it’s not a guarantee, but the format itself is in place.

that’s my understanding anyway. No formal announcement, so I suppose you’re right.

We just know that we’ll beat Columbus and get Boston and then Montreal, who had no chance at the playoffs will ride a hot Price by Pittsburgh and get the #4 seed.

All I ask is reseeding before the round of 16 :)
 
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Let's at least first wait to see if there is any hockey at all and then get past CLB before whining about things that may not even happen.

We had a crap season and might have missed the playoffs entirely and if we did get in, we were going to face a tough opponent either way so how big a deal is this really?

Boston is a team that really gets screwed here. They play amazing all season and they lost out on the main reward which is playing game 7 at home, they don't get to play in Boston at all. Plus their momentum is totally gone, they're starting from square one like every other team. Teams take a while to round into form, hence the expression mid-season form so these playoffs will be a huge variance fest. Boston isn't going to be able to reach peak form in a couple of weeks so we should have a better chance of beating them then we would under normal circumstances.

The big losers here IMO are teams like Boston who were on a roll. The increased variance benefits teams the most that weren't looking good and get to regroup and start fresh. We are among those teams so complaining seems silly to me.

Ive always been on the “let’s go through Boston” train. If this team were to go on a cup run, it would feel better beating Boston to do it.

However, if the league is throwing everything out the window to do these playoffs, we should at least have it make sense.


There’s nothing we can do about “momentum”. Also, Boston wasn’t that hot anymore. They were extremely beatable from about mid-December onwards. Though they did pick it up again just before the lock down, I wouldn’t say they lost the most momentum.

Also, this isn’t even a Leafs thing. Take the Leafs out of it. It could be Columbus. It could be one of the western teams.

Anyway, it’s not like it’s a big, or a hot complaint. Just reseed before the round of 16. Done. Easy. That’s all I ask :)
 

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The format was approved by the players.

there’s still things to get worked out to get hockey back, and it’s not a guarantee, but the format itself is in place.

that’s my understanding anyway. No formal announcement, so I suppose you’re right.

We just know that we’ll beat Columbus and get Boston and then Montreal, who had no chance at the playoffs will ride a hot Price by Pittsburgh and get the #4 seed.

All I ask is reseeding before the round of 16 :)
Reseeding should absolutely be done. Is the thought that the top 4 are just playing exhibition games? That seems kind of silly to me.
 

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They top 4 are not going to play for seeding? I thought NHLPA only approved the 24 teams would qualify but they’re still working on the details.
 
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Reseeding should absolutely be done. Is the thought that the top 4 are just playing exhibition games? That seems kind of silly to me.

I think the top 4 of a conference each play each other once to determine the seeding of them. But the Leafs are in line to face whoever the best team is, no matter what, should we get past Columbus.

Im actually really happy with the format. Just reseed after the play ins. Makes it pretty much perfect.


And honestly, only a negative can come from not reseeding. What is the explanation or negative of reseeding? To my understanding, there will be two hubs, one for the East teams and one for the West teams. So all the teams are in the same spot. So reseeding can be done.
 
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They should really be reseeding the top 4 based on their round robin, PLUS the 4 teams that move on from the play-in. As an example, if Boston comes in first in the round robin and remains the 1 seed, and Montreal beats Pittsburgh as the 12 seed, Montreal should be playing Boston and not us. That's the only fair way to do it.
 

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Should the Leafs win they could end up playing any of the four teams with bye. That’s good
 

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Ive always been on the “let’s go through Boston” train. If this team were to go on a cup run, it would feel better beating Boston to do it.

However, if the league is throwing everything out the window to do these playoffs, we should at least have it make sense.


There’s nothing we can do about “momentum”. Also, Boston wasn’t that hot anymore. They were extremely beatable from about mid-December onwards. Though they did pick it up again just before the lock down, I wouldn’t say they lost the most momentum.

Also, this isn’t even a Leafs thing. Take the Leafs out of it. It could be Columbus. It could be one of the western teams.

Anyway, it’s not like it’s a big, or a hot complaint. Just reseed before the round of 16. Done. Easy. That’s all I ask :)

I agree reseeding probably makes sense and that is't not a big deal. The whole thing is a giant variance fest anyway, the reseeding is such a small detail in that big picture that it's not even worth thinking about. Then again, there's not much else to talk about here now so ... I'll see myself out now. :)
 

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What’s being overlooked is the fact that early season D is sloppy and most games end up being a shootout early on.

With a 4 month break with limited gym and ice time most players are in worse shape than they would be to start a season. Offence is always there, D And physicality takes half a season for teams to tighten up. This break might bode well for the Leafs with only 21 games max to the SC.

The major X factor is how much playoff intensity factors in.
 

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Barring Andersen playing poorly the only way they lose this if they allow Columbus to dictate the play. Leafs softness could be a factor if they allow it.

Columbus isn't some physical juggernaut, they aren't really that physical at all, tbh, so the Leafs "softness", which is completely overstated, shouldn't be a factor.

Columbus plays hard, because there coach demands it, and it's the only way they can be successful, but they aren't really physical like say the Islanders would be.
 

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Columbus isn't some physical juggernaut, they aren't really that physical at all, tbh, so the Leafs "softness", which is completely overstated, shouldn't be a factor.

Columbus plays hard, because there coach demands it, and it's the only way they can be successful, but they aren't really physical like say the Islanders would be.
Yes they play hard and finish their checks.
 

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Just a random thought regarding the television broadcast quality assuming the NHL moves forward with the proposed playoff format...

I watched bits of a Bundesliga match last weekend and there was digital background crowd noise added to the broadcast. It was actually much more enjoyable to watch than the previous week where it was so quiet that you could hear the players and coaches.

I hope that Sportsnet figures out a way to do something comparable for the NHL playoff broadcasts.
 
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