Speculation: Leafs trade predictions

[Zizzzzy]

You realize that buyjng a house for 11.6 million and selling it for 11.8 million will result in hundreds of thousands in losses right?

Forget the obvious additions/Reno’s like the rink.

It costs 3-500 k in land transfer tax on an 11 million house. So the house is over 12 million

And then what 2-5 percent real estate fees? That’s 200-400 k. That then gets taxed.

He’s taking a bath on the house...... and then he rents a condo?

After his base salary would barely cover the losses
There is no reasonable way he is planning on staying here and selling that house. It’s the worst investment decision like ever
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What the hell are you going on about?

 

[ULF_55]

What the hell are you going on about?

I think he's trying to say Marleau overpaid for his house and is paying the price like mortals do.

not a big loss in the scheme of things.

 

[81Leafs50]

Connor Brown to EDM for 2 picks (2 mid picks)

Zaitsev to VAN (prospect/picks)

Marleau & Johnsson to ANA for Patrick Eaves and Cory Perry (money retained)
*picks involved

 

[Duke16]

Connor Brown to EDM for 2 picks (2 mid picks)

Zaitsev to VAN (prospect/picks)

Marleau & Johnsson to ANA for Patrick Eaves and Cory Perry (money retained)
*picks involved

Why are we trying to set precedent when dumping Marleau by giving up the best add-on in NHL history only to take on bad contracts in return?

If the Leafs add Johnsson in this they are getting atleast a 2nd back and take on no bad contract. *see Bickell trade*

 

[81Leafs50]

Why are we trying to set precedent when dumping Marleau by giving up the best add-on in NHL history only to take on bad contracts in return?

If the Leafs add Johnsson in this they are getting atleast a 2nd back and take on no bad contract. *see Bickell trade*

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

 

[Anthrax442]

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

Problem is that if you are moving out both Marleau and Johnsson, your left wing depth is Hyman and Trevor Moore.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

If we are trading Johnsson with Marleau, the return is a legit pick and no cap dump coming the other way. Doesn't matter how you value him or where you would slot him in a top 9.

Not to mention we get no compensation for taking on Perry's awful contract.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Problem is that if you are moving out both Marleau and Johnsson, your left wing depth is Hyman and Trevor Moore.

I think we as fans overlook lines thinking the top6 needs to be all-star level on paper; rather than capable of winning hockey games.

Take a look at St.louis
The O'reilly line has a guy that slotted in late (Sanford) because he fits.

Robert Thomas is a rookie staple on their 3rd line.

Their top line hasn't produced a ton and save from the recent game Boston's hasn't really either.

I'm fine complimenting any line with plumbers like Hyman and Moore.

 

[Duke16]

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

not overrating him at all. Johnsson would be the best player add on to a contact dump possibly ever.

 

[ShaneFalco]

If only Patrick O'Thoggo was available

 

[kb]

If only Patrick O'Thoggo was available

#3C all the way.

 

[nuck]

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

Expendable but it still doesn't make the value balance. July 1st after his bonus is paid Marleau's salary is $2.75M and Eaves is $3M but one of them can still play and the other cant. You shouldn't need to season that deal 1 for 1 at all. Dead weight for a player who will cost less and can still play. As far as Perry would you really want to touch that at all? The Ducks would have to retain something like $7M to make it worth taking him on. He is more likely done then not.

If Carolina and Teravainen are the yardstick shouldn't the Leafs be getting a 2nd and a 3rd back instead of Eaves and Perry? The Wings ditched Datsyuk's deal by trading the 16th pick for the 20th and 53rd and taking on Joe Vitale so the net payment is pretty low. I think you are overestimating the value of trading for cap space.

 

[BlueForever75]

Marleau gets traded for late pick, or possibly we add a prospect and take back a useful contract to fill a void.

Brown either gets traded for multiple picks, or is included in a larger deal.

Zaitsev gets traded for a useful part and a mid pick or is part of larger deal (see Brown)

Kapanen gets traded has he is replaceable on RW in house, and is the best piece to acquire a RHD that Leafs are willing to get rid of.

 

[81Leafs50]

If we are trading Johnsson with Marleau, the return is a legit pick and no cap dump coming the other way. Doesn't matter how you value him or where you would slot him in a top 9.

Not to mention we get no compensation for taking on Perry's awful contract.

everyone is one aweful contracts. just dont bother. shut down the leafs. lol

we only want young players, with upside, and cheap cap hits. We will give you Marleau. OK SURE!

 

[SeaOfBlue]

everyone is one aweful contracts. just dont bother. shut down the leafs. lol

we only want young players, with upside, and cheap cap hits. We will give you Marleau. OK SURE!

If we are giving up Johnsson with Marleau, we are getting a legit asset in return. If we are giving up just Marleau, then we can expect to pay something for very little in return. However it's not going to be anything close to a Johnsson level asset...

 

[KuleminFan41]

I think you are overrating Johnsson a tad. He is at best a 2nd line player and currently the Leafs 2nd line is Hymna-Tavares-Marner. SO that makes him a 3rd liner on the depth charts. So he is expendable.

I think you're undervaluing Johnsson significantly. Being a 2nd line player is hardly anything to throw away just "because", you need depth scoring and he provides that. He was 3rd in scoring among wingers on the Leafs and didn't exactly have the luxury of playing with the top 2 lines or play on the power play for a good chunk of the season. You'd be giving away a guy who scored 40+ points in his rookie season and taking Corey Perry in return.Its a bad idea, especially seeing as Johnsson had scored more goals and had only 6 less points in 18-19 season than Perry had in 17-18 season. That's a terrible investment, you get no cap relief at all and you give away a promising young player to get a guy whos on a very steep decline . That's not how you build winning teams, that would be something the Leafs of 2001 would do, and thankfully that management is long gone.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Someone still has to be willing to take on that contract.

You're correct of course. Too many Leaf fans think high cap Marleau and Zaitsev can simply disappear off the Leafs cap because both players want to be traded. Surprise, other teams have their cap issues and their own thoughts how they want to be structure their own team.