You're almost definitely drastically underrating Kapanen, because everyone does. He's a legit player. BUT I still wouldn't fault you, just because, especially with young players, you go for peak, and I really think Sanheim has legitimate star-level peak potential, whereas Kapanen probably tops out as a solid top-line winger in the "there are 62 top-line wingers" sense of the phrase.
Eklund Rumor: Leafs targeting Travis Sanheim.
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You're almost definitely drastically underrating Kapanen, because everyone does. He's a legit player. BUT I still wouldn't fault you, just because, especially with young players, you go for peak, and I really think Sanheim has legitimate star-level peak potential, whereas Kapanen probably tops out as a solid top-line winger in the "there are 62 top-line wingers" sense of the phrase.
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I would disagree... moving nylander opens space to tighten up the defense/get depth forwards towards the deadline.
Nylander is better than Kapanen, but Nylander is likely going to cost 6-8 million, I imagine even after this year Kapanen wont make much more than 3(unless he absolutely goes off) .
Fair enough, i can see where the confusion might be.
To be clear, ive always been a fan of Kapanen, but for me, Sanheim just should not be available unless we're clear winners of the trade. We just need defense way too much.
What we need is to fire the coach who was supposed to be good at developing young players but, as it turns out, is terrible at it.
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I can’t imagine a team giving any player 6 mins of extra ice time just to show case him. The point is to win the game, not make another GMs job easier.
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Hasn't Eklund been right about Philly some of the time? Like he might have had or still has legit sources there? While I think he might have the piece from Toronto as wrong, he might be right about Sanheim. Now excuse me while I go have a shower to make myself clean again after giving Eklund credit.
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Sanheim was playing fantastic all game and help set up the only goal. Ghost also took a puck off the knee and missed a few shifts so Sanheim FINALLY got the icetime that fans have wanted for awhile.
Let's be clear here, Sanheim is 100% needed by the Flyers. He and Gudas have been a great pairing yet Hak has said he doesn't want their minutes to increase. But Sanheim is trying to force that issue by being dominant. He is a thoroughbred, he just needs to be let loose. Under a different coach, it would have already of happened by now. He has 5 points in 9 games and should have 6 as he was not given an assist that he should have.
Now Kapanen. A year ago I wanted to try and grab Kapanen while he was buried by depth. The Simmonds for Kap+1st was bandied around. Grabbing him was for the 3rd RW spot....behind Konecny and Voracek. Today, nothing has changed except that Kap's value is much higher but the Flyers still have TK and Jake to play in the top 6. So Kap is not a "need". Especially with Simmonds still on the roster for the #3RW spot this year, and with a crap ton of kids on the verge.
Both teams will keep their cheap guys that they need and be quite happy.
Eklund got the Carter and Richards trades - however long ago they happened. He hasnt been close to anything since then. We've been reportedly trying sign Buffyglien every off-season since then though, apparently. You see how thats turned out. Hextall runs a much tighter ship than Holmgren did. If anything is leaking, it's likely from the other end, which means even if Eklund is reporting it, its definitely second hand at best.
Flyers would have no reason to move Sanheim. Their biggest need is defense. As awful as Elliott has been, his GA is (or was, the stat was a few days ago) still well above his expected GA when adjusted for defensive play. Thats how bad our defense has been.
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Leafs have no interest in LD. Already have two top 4 LD signed long term and possibly Gardiner if he is retained, plus literally 3 NHL ready LD for the bottom pair and their top D prospect is a LD (Sandin).
In order for the Flyers if best Dmen this year:
Sanheim, Provorov, Ghost, Gudas, Hagg, Folin, Amac
Gudas and Ghost are kind of a wash for 3rd best, but Hagg/Folin/Amac have been awful.
No way in hell are the flyers trading Sanheim. We’re not going to get the return we want even if he was available.
Sanheim, Provorov, Ghost, Gudas, Hagg, Folin, Amac
Gudas and Ghost are kind of a wash for 3rd best, but Hagg/Folin/Amac have been awful.
No way in hell are the flyers trading Sanheim. We’re not going to get the return we want even if he was available.
Why would a team with a bunch of good forward prospects but is very thin on the back end professionally trade for another for forward.
Sanheim has way more value to the team than anyone the Leafs would want to trade for him
Sanheim has way more value to the team than anyone the Leafs would want to trade for him
This is the correct response. Kappy is good but not sanheim good. Having said that, kappy might get there. Unlikely though.
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Doesn't make sense - Leafs wouldn't target a LHD unless he can play his offside much better than Ron Hainsey
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There is no workable deal.
Nylander is worth more right now and Kapanen is not worth enough.
Flyers need Sanheim more than anything the Leafs can reasonably offer (outside of Nylander).
Nylander is worth more right now and Kapanen is not worth enough.
Flyers need Sanheim more than anything the Leafs can reasonably offer (outside of Nylander).
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This is spoken as though you are priveledged to what the Leafs' management are really planning to do.
If you get an opportunity to acquire a good player or add to your depth then you do the care about what hand they shoot.
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https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/tor-phi-nylander-for-sanheim.2181701/
last years related chat.
other note: phillys has 6 nhl contract goalies right now
last years related chat.
other note: phillys has 6 nhl contract goalies right now
I think this is the thread where someone tried saying wed have to add to Provorov to get Nylander, if thats any indication of how that thread went.
The Podium
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Oh totally agreed. I was making the point that Sanheim's ice time was because he earned it. Not because he was being show cased. Teams are trying to win.
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This seems very poorly thoughtout, even for Eklund.
What do the Flyers have a lot of? Good wingers. What do the Flyers not have a lot of? Good defenseman.
So, let's trade Sanheim, who is Hexy's 3rd best defenseman and his 1st pick ever as a GM, for a winger?
Sanheim is towards the bottom of the list of players I could see Hextall trading, even if they decided to clean house and start from scratch.
What do the Flyers have a lot of? Good wingers. What do the Flyers not have a lot of? Good defenseman.
So, let's trade Sanheim, who is Hexy's 3rd best defenseman and his 1st pick ever as a GM, for a winger?
Sanheim is towards the bottom of the list of players I could see Hextall trading, even if they decided to clean house and start from scratch.
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