Proposal: Leafs/Sens/Preds

[Halla]

there is already a similar thread, but I envision it getting locked as Nashville completely fleeces the leafs and sens there

thoughts on this one?

TOR: Subban
OTT: Nylander, Tor 1st, Nsh 1st
NSH: Karlsson

Leafs get their stud D man. Nashville gets a dman that has averaged 71pts over the last 5 years for a guy that has averaged 53 and only have to give up a late 1st. Ottawa starts a rebuild with a pair of 1sts and a kid that steps in right away as their 2nd most talented forward (and only guy besides stone that is a 60+pt guy)

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[Morgs]

Nylander is not available.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Nylander is 8 years younger and cheaper. Leafs strength is that they are hard to line match against.

Also, Tavares would flip if Marner was dealt. Matthews would flip if Nylander was dealt. Marner can’t play with both Matthews and Tavares.

 

[Taytro]

Leafs wont move Willy but even the rest of the trade doesnt add up. Nashville gets 1 yest of Karlsson for 4 years of Subban and a 1st? Dont touch it if I'm Nashville cant bank on Karlsson resigning when he has absolutely 0 allegiance to your team.

 

[Starat327]

This thread....lol

 

[HolyCrap]

I think the Nash/tor/Ott three way is pretty tough to work. Prob easier for two of the three teams to make a deal if each needed even swaps.

 

[Hunter368]

No chance the Preds trade PK and a 1st for a unsigned EK.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Why would the Preds do this?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Ottawa says hell no.

 

[LeafGrief]

We need good wingers to play with our good centres. If we trade Nylander then Matthews ends up with Hyman and Brown again. I love 'em both, but they should not be Matthews' wingers.

 

[FilthyScoresberg]

“Nylander is not available.” Oh, my ass. Subban wasn’t available either.
He’s gotta be the most overvalued player in the history of HF.
He’s a stud, sure, but he’s being treated like a superstar.

 

[Soundgarden]

This is like the twentieth thread that includes Subban, Karlsson and Nylander. Just because you know that they are popular players for their teams doesn't mean they need to get traded for each other.


As for the trade itself we don't need to swap Subban for Karlsson at the expense of a 1st, our prospect pool aside from Tolvanen and maybe Fabbro is dog crap. Subban is more than fine being a 50-60 point defenseman on the 2nd pairing who ups his game in the playoffs.

 

[Hoverhand]

No chance the Preds trade PK and a 1st for a unsigned EK.

I mean, all trades of this type would have a contract setup before the deal is done.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

This is like the twentieth thread that includes Subban, Karlsson and Nylander. Just because you know that they are popular players for their teams doesn't mean they need to get traded for each other.

And curiously enough, while Subban and Karlsson have been constants, their value relative to the Leafs has gone from involving Marner+ to nearly Nylander straight-up. Amazing how the latter's value has sky-rocketed in the last two months despite none of them having played a minute in that time.

 

[Apollo Leaf]

Can’t see the Preds liking this one.

Even with Nylander traded, can the Leafs afford Subban and his 9M cap hit after this season?

Also, it would be travesty seeing him in a Sens uniform. No thanks.

 

[CapnZin]

Every team says no besides TOR. I take it you’re a fan of the Maple Leafs.

 

[sansabri]

Easy yes for TO. Easy no for everyone else.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

thoughts on this one?

TOR: Subban
OTT: Nylander, Tor 1st, Nsh 1st
NSH: Karlsson

No chance the Preds trade PK and a 1st for a unsigned EK.

Why would the Preds do this?

No idea why the Preds would do this. Not seeing the logic.

 

[CanadienShark]

“Nylander is not available.” Oh, my ass. Subban wasn’t available either.
He’s gotta be the most overvalued player in the history of HF.
He’s a stud, sure, but he’s being treated like a superstar.

Yeah, this whole narrative of Nylander being untouchable is getting out of hand. He's an excellent complementary piece, but for an elite #1RHD, you make him available every single time.

 

[Stickpucker]

Toronto laugh all the way to the bank.

Ask for PK would be Marner + 1st + Liljergen

 

[Liferleafer]

Toronto laugh all the way to the bank.

Ask for PK would be Marner + 1st + Liljergen

Not sure how to make the dial tone sound on a keyboard....but that's what the Preds would hear after they made that ask.....

 

[Liferleafer]

Yeah, this whole narrative of Nylander being untouchable is getting out of hand. He's an excellent complementary piece, but for an elite #1RHD, you make him available every single time.

Of course, but nobody is dealing that....we get told Faulk/Myers will cost Nylander.

 

[CanadienShark]

Of course, but nobody is dealing that....we get told Faulk/Myers will cost Nylander.

I agree it's crazy to suggest Myers would fetch Nylander. I'm pretty high on Faulk, but realize he hasn't had a good year lately. So I'll concede that Nylander holds more value now.

I'm referring to the offer in the OP.

 

[Armourboy]

The gap between Subban and Karlsson is not a 1st, especially considering Subban is signed long term for about 2 million less than Karlsson will cost, assuming he will even sign.

 

[Liferleafer]

I agree it's crazy to suggest Myers would fetch Nylander. I'm pretty high on Faulk, but realize he hasn't had a good year lately. So I'll concede that Nylander holds more value now.

I'm referring to the offer in the OP.

Ah, well here's my take, value wise Nylander+1st for Subban is a win for Toronto, but i don't want to target Subban. I think the Leafs should be aiming lower.