TSN: Leafs in on Vatanen

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

TSN Insider trading reported today that the Leafs are targetting Ducks D man Sami Vatenan there was no mention as to what the price would be but I suspect Kasperi Kapenan will be in any deal.

People say JVR but if you remove him our LW is very weak I personally thnk they need to add depth there not trade their best guy at that position.

by I Digress what do you think he would cost the Leafs?

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[LordNeverLose]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Not the kind of defenceman the Leafs need, I would rather trade JVR because he won't be signing another sweetheart deal and we have to pay the big 3 sooner rather than later. Kapanen could become just as good as JVR and provides more speed and D.

 

[TheNewEra]

Kapanen +2nd for vatanen?

Doesn't so much for the ducks since they are contending but imo Kapanen can jump into the lineup next season (where ever he plays) and produce as a 3rd liner at least

 

[Knies iT]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

It absolutely does as a base. Kapanen is an expansion exempt, blue chip prospect. PPG in the AHL, elite offensive tools, proven PK'er at the NHL level (playoffs, pre-season and regular season), and only 20 years old. Vatanen is a 2nd pair D, undersized, and undergoing 6 months of recovery for shoulder surgery with a 5mill contract on a team that is in an expansion draft bind.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

Good, we need defensive defenceman not another offensive defenceman. We need a Manson...

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

I hope Lou wouldn't be willing to deal Kapanen for Vatanen. Kap is a hell of a prospect. We have so many other players to offer, Kap should be seen as part of the core.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Ducks can move him somewhere else. Not the guy we need.

 

[Critical13]

I would love Vats. Kapanen is good value for him, despite what Ducks fans say. Top 6 winger who PKs on the top unit is quite valuable.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

This should be good.

Over-under for JVR?

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JVR should be typed at least 50 times this thread.

 

[HockeyShack]

TSN Insider trading reported today that the Leafs are targetting Ducks D man Sami Vatenan there was no mention as to what the price would be but I suspect Kasperi Kapenan will be in any deal.

People say JVR but if you remove him our LW is very weak I personally thnk they need to add depth there not trade their best guy at that position.

by I Digress what do you think he would cost the Leafs?

JVR isn't exempt, so unless the Ducks just want to move Vats cap hit for nothing that trade makes no sense.

 

[Leafs24Seven*]

It absolutely does as a base. Kapanen is an expansion exempt, blue chip prospect. PPG in the AHL, elite offensive tools, proven PK'er at the NHL level (playoffs, pre-season and regular season), and only 20 years old. Vatanen is a 2nd pair D, undersized, and undergoing 6 months of recovery for shoulder surgery with a 5mill contract on a team that is in an expansion draft bind.

Which is exactly why he is going nowhere unless as part of a package for a #1/1B dman which nobody is trading away anyways.

 

[dracom]

It absolutely does as a base. Kapanen is an expansion exempt, blue chip prospect. PPG in the AHL, elite offensive tools, proven PK'er at the NHL level (playoffs, pre-season and regular season), and only 20 years old. Vatanen is a 2nd pair D, undersized, and undergoing 6 months of recovery for shoulder surgery with a 5mill contract on a team that is in an expansion draft bind.

For most teams that would be a huge plus, but for us I don't really think it should be. We have 6 quality forwards we need to protect, we can easily take a non-exempt forward and be just fine.

Also, Kapanen and his 23 total NHL games (regular season and playoffs) has not "proven" anything. He has 3 points in total in all those games. AHL success does not always translate to NHL success.

 

[go4hockey]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

Really I think a deal around Vats for Kapanen + would be pretty good for the Ducks. Don't know if the Leafs should be going after a guy like Vats or a more defensive defenseman that ones up to how the Toronto brass feels.

 

[go4hockey]

For most teams that would be a huge plus, but for us I don't really think it should be. We have 6 quality forwards we need to protect, we can easily take a non-exempt forward and be just fine.

Also, Kapanen and his 23 total NHL games (regular season and playoffs) has not "proven" anything. He has 3 points in total in all those games. AHL success does not always translate to NHL success.

But he would be a good starting piece with an add to even things out. Hey at least it's not an offer of JVR for the one millionth time.

 

[fahad203]

Vantanen would be huge upgrade from Hunwick and Carrick.

It's going to take Kapanen and then some to get him. There are teams will be offering more and rightfully so. A proven D. Kapy on the other the other hand hasn't proven anything. He showed glimpses in limited roles

 

[Jumptheshark]

I can't imagine for a second a deal around Kapanen gets you Vatanen.

leaf fans may not like it--but Vatenan is a guy who can play big minutes and all around the ice---Kapanen has not show that much--not saying he wont be good--but Vatenan can play 20 to 25 minutes a nigh safely in the NHL--for the oilers to get guy like that it cost Hall(Larsson is more physical)

If the asking price is just Kapanen--28 other clubs will jump in on the bidding

 

[Duck Off]

Considering there's a bidding war, I seriously doubt Kapanen + 2nd gets it done

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

leaf fans may not like it--but Vatenan is a guy who can play big minutes and all around the ice---Kapanen has not show that much--not saying he wont be good--but Vatenan can play 20 to 25 minutes a nigh safely in the NHL--for the oilers to get guy like that it cost Hall(Larsson is more physical)

If the asking price is just Kapanen--28 other clubs will jump in on the bidding

People keep bringing up the Hall for Larsson deal like it matters, it was a 1 off deal by a desprate team that they got VERY lucky on because it happened to work out

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Kapanen +2nd for vatanen?

Doesn't so much for the ducks since they are contending but imo Kapanen can jump into the lineup next season (where ever he plays) and produce as a 3rd liner at least

Erm... how do you 'know' this, exactly? He has one goal in 17 career NHL games.

He PROBABLY can slot in, but is he really a lock to be better than a guy like Kase in Anaheim?

Anton Lander put up otherworldly numbers in the AHL for years but he couldn't translate his game to the NHL level.

Kapanen is a good prospect that has a lot yet to prove. I'd suspect the Ducks will get signficiantly better offers than Kapanen and a mediocre pick.

 

[34]

Ducks can move him somewhere else. Not the guy we need.

Agree, he is not the D Toronto needs.

 

[lawrence]

can't imagine Win now Ducks wanting to unload Vatanen.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Considering there's a bidding war, I seriously doubt Kapanen + 2nd gets it done

I wouldn't do kappy for vatanen + 2nd so I guess there's no deal to be made here

 

[Deadly Dogma]

There are other D I would go after 1st. Tanev, Brodin, Hamonic even Myers would fit better than Vats.

 

[TML Dynasty]

Kap is our best prospect. If we are packaging him Id hope for a D man that fits us a little better. ie stronger young defense-first RHD

Vats is a great player but with the injury and the bidding war......Id say we are out