Proposal: Leafs Ducks

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Both teams need help finding cap space. This trade just trades pieces without accomplishing much.
Lindholm is needed more in Anaheim. The Leafs should good at LHD, even without Lindholm. Henrique just might be a declining 3C with too big cap.

 

[Gurglesons]

Not sure why Anaheim fans are so against this as a neutral fan.

Grant
Getzlaf
Kadri

Is some solid depth.

 

[Gurglesons]

But seriously, I understand Lindholm is a great piece for the Ducks, but to get out of that Henrique contract for Kadri and Nylander would be pretty huge for the franchise.

Rakell - Getzlaf - Nylander
Ritchie - Kadri - Sprong

Is a pretty dirty top six.

I’d also argue Anaheim LTRing Kesler or trading him to a team like Ottawa would open up them bringing in one of the many great UFA RDs available in 2020.

 

[MMC]

But seriously, I understand Lindholm is a great piece for the Ducks, but to get out of that Henrique contract for Kadri and Nylander would be pretty huge for the franchise.

Rakell - Getzlaf - Nylander
Ritchie - Kadri - Sprong

Is a pretty dirty top six.

We don't want Kadri. He's not going to have much value when he's proven to end up as a liability in the playoffs. Maybe a bad team who desperately needs a Center would give up fair value for him, but otherwise his value will be too low for the Leafs to move. Nylander also only makes our cap problem worse, moreso than Henrique does.

 

[Gurglesons]

We don't want Kadri. He's not going to have much value when he's proven to end up as a liability in the playoffs. Maybe a bad team who desperately needs a Center would give up fair value for him, but otherwise his value will be too low for the Leafs to move. Nylander also only makes our cap problem worse, moreso than Henrique does.

Kadri will not play Boston so he’ll be great.

Nylander is at worse a 50 pt winger which every team in the league could use.

I’m a neutral fan, I don’t have any horse in the race, but I live in SoCal and think those automatically writing this trade off are a little out to lunch. It is 100% fair value.

 

[MMC]

Kadri will not play Boston so he’ll be great.

Nylander is at worse a 50 pt winger which every team in the league could use.

I’m a neutral fan, I don’t have any horse in the race, but I live in SoCal and think those automatically writing this trade off are a little out to lunch. It is 100% fair value.

It really isn't. We have a RW group of Terry, Perry, Sprong, Silfverberg, and Kase, and a LHD group of Lindholm, Fowler, and then a bunch of unknowns. We have a C group of Getzlaf, Henrique, Steel, Shore, and if he plays, Kesler. We have no reason to make a lateral move at the position. I'd much rather keep Henrique, he clearly wants to be here since he extended with us and is much more reliable in the postseason. Even if he does become redundant, we can trade him for pieces that actually fill our holes, rather than open them up.

 

[Gurglesons]

It really isn't. We have a RW group of Terry, Perry, Sprong, Silfverberg, and Kase, and a LHD group of Lindholm, Fowler, and then a bunch of unknowns. We have a C group of Getzlaf, Henrique, Steel, Shore, and if he plays, Kesler. We have no reason to make a lateral move at the position. I'd much rather keep Henrique, he clearly wants to be here since he extended with us and is much more reliable in the postseason. Even if he does become redundant, we can trade him for pieces that actually fill our holes, rather than open them up.

I would assume this would coincide with them dumping Perry.

 

[dracom]

I would assume this would coincide with them dumping Perry.

we're not dumping Perry

 

[Gurglesons]

we're not dumping Perry

Why not?

 

[dracom]

Why not?

NMC mostly

 

[Spazkat]

Kadri will not play Boston so he’ll be great.

Nylander is at worse a 50 pt winger which every team in the league could use.

I’m a neutral fan, I don’t have any horse in the race, but I live in SoCal and think those automatically writing this trade off are a little out to lunch. It is 100% fair value.

Kadri's boneheaded suspensions have by no means been limited to "games against Boston". More like any intense situation where anyone pushes him too hard. Guys a complete loose cannon and the very last thing Anaheim needs.

All that aside it may be "fair value" but the loss of Lindholm does not in any way shape or form make the Ducks a better team.

 

[405Exit]

The team played much better w/o a coach than they did with rc as coach. The stats are right in front of you.

I showed you how our offense will improve, not to mention we are in line to have a solid draft this year.

And offense improves a bit with fixing the defense, we need a top 4 rhd bad... that is our biggest hole

Still ended up last in the league. And the last month of the season we were ahead of the Kings In a decent margin of 10 goals. Kings hit 203 Ducks hit 199 on the long stretch of a month of games.

You still didn’t answer my question on who you’re going to blame next season if the Ducks have a similar outcome with a new coach.

And defense is only going to do so much. This isn’t the Nieds and Pronger days where you can count on 32-35% of your goal scoring coming from the backline. The forwards need to produce. Which you blatantly fail to recognize on this club.

 

[405Exit]

Why because it’s true? Any team trading for him takes risk over the absurd asking price from leaf fans. We’ve already done that crap for Patrick Eaves and lost with Dallas. Tread carefully with that debacle.

 

[pbgoalie]

Not sure why Anaheim fans are so against this as a neutral fan.

Grant
Getzlaf
Kadri

Is some solid depth.

Fixing center depth by further gutting our defensive depth isn’t a move forward though.

 

[Morgs]

Why because it’s true? Any team trading for him takes risk over the absurd asking price from leaf fans. We’ve already done that crap for Patrick Eaves and lost with Dallas. Tread carefully with that debacle.

Did Patrick Eaves have two 60+ point seasons by the age of 21? What about elite chance generation, and above average defense locked in for another 5 seasons after this one?

Idc if he's had a "bad" season in most peoples eyes, I guarantee we lose basically ANY trade for him because his talent coupled with that elite generation will make it so he ends up "bouncing back".

He isn't available.

 

[mitchthemitch]

Why would the Leafs do this? We already have three top 4 LD on contract for next season and two other possibly in the nhl. Trading Nylander and Kadri completely destroys our forward group after the top two lines. I'd much rather trade Kadri in a one for one for a defensively responsible RD like Pesce, and then acquire a much cheaper but still capable third line center