GDT: Leafs and Wings at the Louis - 7:30 start on LeafsTV
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FlareKnight
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We're pretty close to the start of the season. Be nice to see the real lines.
I mean you can somewhat find pairs that might play together this year. JVR/Bozak, Kadri/Raymond (at least to start), Lupul/Kulemin (if Raymond starts third line), etc. Just not whole lines you actually expect to see. Just seems like we won't actually see our starting lineup until the very first game of the season.
I mean you can somewhat find pairs that might play together this year. JVR/Bozak, Kadri/Raymond (at least to start), Lupul/Kulemin (if Raymond starts third line), etc. Just not whole lines you actually expect to see. Just seems like we won't actually see our starting lineup until the very first game of the season.
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I'm waiting on that myself but I think Franson should play, he needs to because he missed a lot of training camp already and a number of preseason games.
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Probable d: phaneuf-gunnarsson. Fraser-ranger. Gardiner-franson.
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Unless the plan is to have 3 scoring lines again kind of like last year?
1st line - JVR - Bozak - Kessel (scoring)
2nd line - Lupul - Bolland - Kulemin (shutdown, kind of like the grabo line last year but Bolland instead of Grabo (better suited) and Lupul instead of MacArthur (more offense))
3rd line - Broll - Kadri - Raymond (sheltered minutes for Kadri again, replace Clarkson with Broll when back from suspension)
I could see that happening I guess. It kind of mimics what we had last year. Broll with Kadri could be like when we had Orr playing with Kadri sometimes.
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Not odd at all. Fraser and Franson will most likely be together to start the season but Gardiner/Franson had alot of success during the playoffs so I'm sure they just want to see if they could continue that. That pairing certainly has more upside leaving Fraser to a more suitable 3rd pairing role.
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so....
JVR - Bozak - Clarkson
Lupul - Bolland - Kulemin
Broll - Kadri - Raymond
Ashton - McClement - Orr
Gunnar - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Franson
Fraser - Ranger
1. Big chance for Broll here. He's the only guy in that entire lineup that sticks out as a guy that might not be a regular this year, so obviously he's made an impression. And I don't blame the coaches - Broll is not only a monster, but he can legitimately skate and even handle the puck.
2. Ashton has made this team. That is our 4th line this year. Colborne has lost that battle, but might still stick as an extra forward if we can clear some capspace.
3. Franson - Ranger I can see swapping those roles back and forth all year. A Fraser-Ranger pairing could make more sense as a "shutdown" pair, leaving the Gardiner-Franson to be more of a pure offense pair. Moreover, whenever Rielly plays, playing him with a vet like Ranger makes much more sense than pairing him with a guy like Franson, so this set up here would make it much simpler to swap Rielly/Fraser in and out of the lineup....or even booting Fraser out of the regular starting lineup altogether.
4. Kadri and Bolland swapping places is a bit weird, but there's a few things that might be going on here. First off I think this is the first time Raymond is playing the right side, so that would seem to be him getting a look as a potential Clarkson replacement. Secondly, Kadri-Raymond could easily be described as more of the 2nd line than the Bolland-Kulemin pair, so this would mean that the only real difference here is Lupul and Broll, who might easily be flipped tonight. Third thing is that this might be a preview of Randy experimenting with a 3-scoring lines approach, with Broll filling in the Clarkson role on that Kadri line - i.e. maybe Randy's playing with the idea of having Raymond-Kadri-Clarkson and Lupul-Bolland-Kulemin as the 2/3 lines.
Either way, this is the first time we're seeing a legit NHL lineup this preseason, and it looks like the wings are icing one too. Hopefully both teams bring it and we see some real action for the first time.
JVR - Bozak - Clarkson
Lupul - Bolland - Kulemin
Broll - Kadri - Raymond
Ashton - McClement - Orr
Gunnar - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Franson
Fraser - Ranger
1. Big chance for Broll here. He's the only guy in that entire lineup that sticks out as a guy that might not be a regular this year, so obviously he's made an impression. And I don't blame the coaches - Broll is not only a monster, but he can legitimately skate and even handle the puck.
2. Ashton has made this team. That is our 4th line this year. Colborne has lost that battle, but might still stick as an extra forward if we can clear some capspace.
3. Franson - Ranger I can see swapping those roles back and forth all year. A Fraser-Ranger pairing could make more sense as a "shutdown" pair, leaving the Gardiner-Franson to be more of a pure offense pair. Moreover, whenever Rielly plays, playing him with a vet like Ranger makes much more sense than pairing him with a guy like Franson, so this set up here would make it much simpler to swap Rielly/Fraser in and out of the lineup....or even booting Fraser out of the regular starting lineup altogether.
4. Kadri and Bolland swapping places is a bit weird, but there's a few things that might be going on here. First off I think this is the first time Raymond is playing the right side, so that would seem to be him getting a look as a potential Clarkson replacement. Secondly, Kadri-Raymond could easily be described as more of the 2nd line than the Bolland-Kulemin pair, so this would mean that the only real difference here is Lupul and Broll, who might easily be flipped tonight. Third thing is that this might be a preview of Randy experimenting with a 3-scoring lines approach, with Broll filling in the Clarkson role on that Kadri line - i.e. maybe Randy's playing with the idea of having Raymond-Kadri-Clarkson and Lupul-Bolland-Kulemin as the 2/3 lines.
Either way, this is the first time we're seeing a legit NHL lineup this preseason, and it looks like the wings are icing one too. Hopefully both teams bring it and we see some real action for the first time.
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That's BS! Kadri should be given every opportunity to show that he can produce big time points and eventually supplant Bozak. Stop with this sheltered minutes BS.
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zeke
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yeah on second thought that occurred to me too. Especially if you look at Broll as a Clarkson fill in, so that becomes a Raymond-Kadri-Clarkson line, which could easily be considered the 2nd line too.
Yeah, that's how it was last year as well. Fans were considering the 3rd line (Kadri) as our 2nd line due to the more scoring. Carlyle likes having his 2nd line as the shutdown though which gets less scoring. Just flip them with how we write it and people would have less issue with this lineup I think
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Kessel in for Clarkson, Clarkson in for Broll. Would people complain about that? I just switched how the lines were written
EtoDemerzel
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People, it's preseason - don't stress over projected TOI.
This is a warmup for the season, and is day 1 of back to back games. In other words whoever doesn't get much play time today, will get more tomorrow.
This is a warmup for the season, and is day 1 of back to back games. In other words whoever doesn't get much play time today, will get more tomorrow.
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I don't disagee with you but with the season is fast approaching and you would think they would set the defence, as if it would be at the start of the season, they have Phanuef and Gunnarsson paired and the natural pairings would be Phanuef/Gunnarsson, Gardiner/Ranger and Franson/Fraser but they could be trying different combos to see how they play together.
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