Proposal: Leafs and Stars

[Mattavarner]

One of the few trade proposals both fanbases seem to like, nice work OP

 

[Cor]

Bishop is usually a 45-50 game starter due to injuries, which is all the Leafs need anyway (given that this season will likely be reduced schedule, and we have Campbell/Dell, both who have the ability to play 20-25 games. The only issue.... Bishop is turning 34 in a month. Freddy just turned 31, and Bishop is already dealing with injury issues.


I don't know..... which probably means it's a fair deal.

 

[Suntouchable13]

It's not a sure fire upgrade on Andersen (who I don't think is the problem in Toronto) because Bishop gets hurt quite often. He wasn't even the goalie that took Dallas to the final this year so how do you know he would take the Leafs to the promise land? Bishop is not reliable. I much rather re-sign Andersen if there aren't any reliable sure fire upgrades.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Definitely an interesting proposal. Good job OP. Bishop's propensity for injury is a concern, but he's got a very good playoff record imo and the cost certainty there has to be a net positive for the Leafs.

Anderson to Dallas would allow them to move on from Bishop without much (if any) dropoff

 

[Mrfenn92]

Like the trade for both sides. Dallas gets out of Bishop’s deal 2 years early but still get a good goalie in return and the leafs get some cost certainty with a guy probably as good.
Injury history though is scary.

 

[Sports2]

It's not a sure fire upgrade on Andersen (who I don't think is the problem in Toronto) because Bishop gets hurt quite often. He wasn't even the goalie that took Dallas to the final this year so how do you know he would take the Leafs to the promise land? Bishop is not reliable. I much rather re-sign Andersen if there aren't any reliable sure fire upgrades.

It’s easy to forget now but Bishop was the furthest thing from the problem the year before. I don’t think the Stars do the trade because Bishop gives them the best chance of winning a playoff series. Good proposal though.

 

[seanlinden]

Given Bishop's propensity to get hurt, as a Leaf fan, I wouldn't do it.

If you have a guy like Bishop, you NEED at least a 30 game starter to tandem with him. At $5m, I don't believe the leafs can afford both beyond Campbell's current deal.

That being said, if Dallas were to retain a small amount (something like $500k), I'd do it.

 

[ponder]

Interesting idea, but too risky for me as a Leafs fan. Bishop will be 34 to start next season, and he’s had a tough career, lots of injuries. Just coming off a knee surgery too. He could fall off a cliff at any point, as early as next season. I’d rather have 1 year of Andersen, then figure out next steps, vs. making a very risky 3 year commitment to Bishop.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Why the hell would the Leafs do this?

Because while the goaltending is set now, Andersen only has 1 year left then we have to wonder who the starter is.

This deal answers that question

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Given Bishop's propensity to get hurt, as a Leaf fan, I wouldn't do it.

If you have a guy like Bishop, you NEED at least a 30 game starter to tandem with him. At $5m, I don't believe the leafs can afford both beyond Campbell's current deal.

That being said, if Dallas were to retain a small amount (something like $500k), I'd do it.

The Leafs have a 25-30 game guy in Campbell

 

[tellermine]

It would be gamble for the Leafs.
Can Bishop stay out of hospital?

 

[seanlinden]

The Leafs have a 25-30 game guy in Campbell

Yes they do -- which is the only reason as a Leaf fan I'd consider this trade if the Stars retain a bit.

 

[horner]

To Dallas
G. F Andersen 5.0


To Leafs
G. B Bishop 4.9

Hockey trade, Andersen 1 season left 5.0, Stars just resigned their playoff hero to a 3 season deal.
Bishop at 4.9 is almost even for cap hits. Stars save real money as Andersen is only owed 1 mil.

Tbh with that Dallas d core this could be a great move for Andersen.
Stars remove 5 mil cap space after this season.
Yay/Nay??

What is the need for Toronto to do this?

 

[1FreakZilla3]

What is the need for Toronto to do this?

did you not read the proposal?

 

[horner]

did you not read the proposal?

What I see
Anderson for an injured Bishop

Bishop playoffs 3 gp 0.844 save %

 

[Dr Pepper]

What I see
Anderson for an injured Bishop

Bishop playoffs 3 gp 0.844 save %

Selective analysis is fun, isn't it?

Now look up their stats from the past three seasons. Let me know how that goes.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Wouldve been more interested in this deal if yall still had Johnsson to give away

What a about a beautiful kerfoot lmao .

 

[horner]

Selective analysis is fun, isn't it?

Now look up their stats from the past three seasons. Let me know how that goes.

Bishop also played behind a much better defence and defensive team.
I hate to be selective but I have to .

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I'd probably do this as a Stars fan- Bishop is injured way too often and Freddie is off the books next summer. The Toronto market would eat Bishop alive.

The Toronto market eats most goalies alive, whether its deserved or not. If Steve Simmons gets under your skin, I suggest you grow a pair. Keep in mind, we also prop goalies up too. Belfour and Joseph are Leafs legends. Both were good goalies, but not exactly a threat to win a Vezina. People here don't hate Andersen, we know he's a good goalie. It's more of a move to change things up.

 

[elitepete]

I'd probably do it on the leafs end. gives em a bit of security down the road.

Andersen is probably gonna want a Markstrom contract (6x6) in a year and thats kind of scary to think about as a dude that will be turning 32


well thought out trade idea

Andersen has done nothing to command a contract like that.

 

[serp]

Bishop also played behind a much better defence and defensive team.
I hate to be selective but I have to .

Bishop had knee surgery in May ( couldn't do it earlier because of no selective surgeries allowed ) during the stoppage before it was clear the league would return at all. He just didn't get back in time. He tried but he was not ready to play when he did.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

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[the Chad Kilger]

i am fine with Andersen playing goal for the Leafs this year. I'd rather wait and see if the expansion draft shakes loose some young talent in net for the Leafs to grab that could be cheaper & a true long term solution.

 

[Commander Clueless]

The cost certainty would be a nice incentive for the Leafs, but Bishop's injury history and age would probably make me balk at this. Not sure we want to be on the hook for the last year or two of Bishop's contract. Not a slight on him, as he's a great goalie when he's on.

Intriguing idea, but I think I would pass and ride Freddy out for the year, were it up to me.

 

[horner]

i am fine with Andersen playing goal for the Leafs this year. I'd rather wait and see if the expansion draft shakes loose some young talent in net for the Leafs to grab that could be cheaper & a true long term solution.

And finally having a defence .