Prospect Info: Leafs 2018 3rd Rd Draft Pick (#76 OA via STL) - Semyon Der-Arguchintsev (5'10", 159 lbs, C, OHL)

[Cor]

Don’t know enough about him. Anyone got insight?

 

[Myopic]

Looks like Dubas is still filling out the roster for the Marlies with these smallish players. Size matters in the playoffs.

 

[zeke]

I like this pick.

I think he's the youngest player in the draft, with all sorts of skill.

 

[Green Snow Storm]

Don’t know enough about him. Anyone got insight?

Supremely skilled, great vision. Feet are only ok. Tiny.

 

[SprDaVE]

A playmaking center that was great in the 2nd half. Skating agility is good but has to improve strength and speed.

The youngest player in the draft, so the projection seems like it might be there if he puts in the work.

Pronman had him ranked 25th.

 

[crump]

Marner light

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Looks like Dubas is still filling out the roster for the Marlies with these smallish players. Size matters in the playoffs.

Weird how he built a marlies team that won in the playoffs then

 

[stickty111]

Looks like Dubas is still filling out the roster for the Marlies with these smallish players. Size matters in the playoffs.

Tell that to Mitch Marner.

 

[stickty111]

Weird how he built a marlies team that won in the playoffs then

Clearly AHL doesnt mean anything, and Lou built that team
Because Cynick told me so.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

That guy is one of the worst draft day posters lol. Everyone sucks, and here he claims its a wasted pick and then admits he hasn't seen him. I'm not a huge fan of the pick this early, but those comments are laughable. Hes a smart skilled player.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Mess]

 

[Bloomberg]

I liked his interview lol

 

[LeafChief]

Looks like Dubas is still filling out the roster for the Marlies with these smallish players. Size matters in the playoffs.

Dubas seemed to do a fine job this year.

I'm actually very pleased with the job he has done with the Marlies.

What a dumb post.

 

[The Great Weal]

Super jealous, was praying that he fell to us.

 

[FreeBird]

Wonder if he'll sign the guys we didn't for St.Johns

 

[WilliamNylander]

I love the fact that this kid was a huge leafs fan.

Driving from Peterborough to Toronto to watch games. Just awesome.

 

[Duke16]

He literally has the build of a 12 year old and is late birthday.

This is a GOOD thing

The fact that he put up this amount of points with his physical attributes and it his age is very encouraging.

Huge boom potential.

 

[PromoterDave]

SDA looks pretty skilled. Love this pick. We should've drafted his russian winger in the 7th round. Gogolev scored 30 goals this year

 

[The CyNick]

Future Considerations Scouting report says he's weak and not fast enough to compensate.

..."he’s easily knocked down. He doesn’t skate well enough to make up for that deficiency"

If he doesn't muscle up it's a wasted pick.

Aka Dubas is a genius

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

SDA seems like a bright really likable player. Good skills too.

 

[LeafChief]

He's very well spoken for being only 17.

 

[Raymondo316]

I cant believe how good his English is for a Russian. Heck you get some Russians/foreigners who have been in this league for ages and their English is still poor.

 

[Lisa Needs Braces]

His English is excellent. And also you can tell he's genuinely thrilled to be drafted by the Leafs.

Could be a huge boom pick. Great to have him on board regardless

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Might've been taken too early but I remember some people here saying they'd like him in the 3rd so. Youngest player with great skill but undersized and needs work on his skating is perfectly fine by me. High risk, high reward is exactly what we should be going for in the 3rd and beyond.

 

[moon111]

He's friends with Zaitsev, so that can't hurt.
April 2016 he's listed as 5'7" 136 pounds. Now he's listed as 5'10" and 159 pounds. That's a gain of 23 pounds. Currently 16 lbs under Marner's current listed weight.
He doesn't turn 18 in over 100 days from now. I was a late bloomer and really couldn't put any 'man' weight on until after turning 18. Grew a few inches after highschool. And a
friend of mine nearly grew a foot from when he was 17. As a 3rd round pick, if this is all you're gambling on, that's a well worth risk to take.

 

[Menzinger]

Looks like Dubas is still filling out the roster for the Marlies with these smallish players. Size matters in the playoffs.

We got s bunch of big boys the past couple drafts, unfortunately it doesn’t look like many of them will make the cut.

Here’s hoping this approach leads to a few mire options

 

[The CyNick]

Nice try at trying to pretend you have sources.

Nice try at being relevant by quoting me in your post.

Jealously isn't a good look

 

[Kurtz]

He/his brother is friends with Zaitsev

Adorable.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Incredible how young he looks in the interview.

 

[Macallan18]

Love this pick. Screw drafting to get a 4th line winger that you can pick up as a FA, swing for the fences!!!
Not sure who rules the roost and makes the calls, whether it is Dubas or the scouts, but someone gets it!

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

I remember Yzerman playing for the Petes. Some folks thought he wouldn't be NHL because of his size, Believe he drafted in 1983 when the league was full of "heavies". Drafted # 4 by the Wings, that turned out well.
Maybe SDA tuns into a Yzerman..... OK, a Bozak would be quite good enough.

 

[Chandrashekhar Limit]

Future Considerations Scouting report says he's weak and not fast enough to compensate.

..."he’s easily knocked down. He doesn’t skate well enough to make up for that deficiency"

If he doesn't muscle up it's a wasted pick.

Erik Karlsson was 150 lbs on draft day.

 

[stickty111]

Nice try at being relevant by quoting me in your post.

Jealously isn't a good look

Nice try at being relevent by pretending your the greatest thing since sliced bread.
If your saying I am jealous of someone with "Rielly is a third pairing d man" posts, you have more then a few issues.

Condescension isnt a good look.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

He went to the same hockey school as Gabe Vilardi few years back. CIHA is quickly developing a rep as a good feeder for the OHL.

 

[Macallan18]

Love this pick. Screw drafting to get a 4th line winger that you can pick up as a FA, swing for the fences!!!
Not sure who rules the roost and makes the calls, whether it is Dubas or the scouts, but someone gets it!

 

[bigdirty]

I want to hear Don Cherry say his name.

 

[Liminality]

Nice try at being relevant by quoting me in your post.

Jealously isn't a good look

Nobody is jealous of your shtick.

 

[bonjovi0308]

Go big or go home pick, like it. Needs to work on his speed on his skate though.

 

[Macallan18]

Love this pick. Screw drafting to get a 4th line winger that you can pick up as a FA, swing for the fences!!!
Not sure who rules the roost and makes the calls, whether it is Dubas or the scouts, but someone gets it!

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I liked his interview lol

He has become officially my favorite prospect in the leafs organization. There is something about him man that makes me want to root for him more so than others. I love it

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Love this pick so much.

Strength and skating are the easiest things to fix in a 17 year old prospect. SDA is a very talented forward.

Again, I love it.

 

[AcerComputer]

Future Considerations Scouting report says he's weak and not fast enough to compensate.

..."he’s easily knocked down. He doesn’t skate well enough to make up for that deficiency"

If he doesn't muscle up it's a wasted pick.

So just think how good he'll be when he gets some strength?!

 

[Nithoniniel]

I don't understand how people look at a prospect and say "No, the one thing holding him back is only the most easily fixed attribute a prospect can have, so this guy is a bust already."

 

[SprDaVE]

Getting stronger and heavier is literally the easiest thing to fix in a player. Gym and eating habits are not exactly hard to fix in players that want to become pro players. Some are physically gifted more than others but you don't have to be 250lbs to be a strong player.

SDA was the 2nd line center behind Korostelev (remember him?) and every Petes fan I've talked to or read about says SDA was by far a much better player. The problem was that the Petes had a very bad team and SDA had no one to pass to. Basically, it was like watching Marner playing with Moore and Martin.

People want to draft steals and high ceiling players in the mid/late rounds, this is a prospect that is that. He was a day away from being a 2019 draft pick and it's very possible he would have ended up as a 2019 first rounder if he progresses as well as he did.

 

[Macman]

He's a very likeable kid. Hoping for the best for him.

 

[crump]

Heard some noise about this kid later in the season, glad we took a chance on him. So young it's impossible to project his full growth as he's going to grow still. Like everyone in this draft, he's got some things to work on, but what he's got between the ears is already pretty damned good. One of my favourite picks in this draft by the Leafs. See how he looks in 3 years.

 

[67Cup]

Not a medical person but, IIRC, the only way to know for sure if there is growth to come is to xray the growth plates in the limbs. But I have been told that the probability is greater if the young man looks immature facially etc. SDA certainly qualifies there. He looks like the grade 9 kid who was hired to clean the dressing room. Sort of a young Kyle Dubas! (Some redundancy there.)

But even if he doesn’t gain height, he can certainly increase muscle mass with some hard work in the gym. He also looks as if he needs to work on top end speed but other posters will know more about that.

Interesting roll of the dice on a very skilled and very young player.