Leafs 1978 QF Game 7

[sommervr]

No leafs game this Saturday so I watched my favorite leaf game of all time online. I was just a little kid at the time but I wil always remember the OT winner by MacDonald.

Some things I noticed:

Watch this game if you want to see what Randy Carlyle is all about. We could use Glennie and Carlyle on this team. Tough and skilled with a great first pass. I don't know why we ever got rid of him. Could use Turnbull too.

Players from that era could all take care of themselves. Skill players don't get run because the stars would give you a mouthful of lumber if you tried. No helmets and no concussions but lots of stick work.

What an effort level on this team. Everyone finishing their checks.

The goalies look like peewees. I doubt we will ever see a small acrobatic goalie like Palmateer ever again.

If RC can get this current leaf team to compete like this I would be a very happy leaf fan

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[Mess]

No leafs game this Saturday so I watched my favorite leaf game of all time online. I was just a little kid at the time but I wil always remember the OT winner by MacDonald.

Some things I noticed:

Watch this game if you want to see what Randy Carlyle is all about. We could use Glennie and Carlyle on this team. Tough and skilled with a great first pass. I don't know why we ever got rid of him. Could use Turnbull too.

Players from that era could all take care of themselves. Skill players don't get run because the stars would give you a mouthful of lumber if you tried. No helmets and no concussions but lots of stick work.

What an effort level on this team. Everyone finishing their checks.

The goalies look like peewees. I doubt we will ever see a small acrobatic goalie like Palmateer ever again.

If RC can get this current leaf team to compete like this I would be a very happy leaf fan

Youngster Carlyle was traded for the same "Draft Schmaft" that has exited forever in TO, with a focus always on winning now, with no patience to develop your own talent.

Dave Burrows and George Ferguson were veterans acquired in trade for Carlyle who went on to win the Norris trophy after being dealt.

PS. The Sittler Era, with MacDonald, Salming, Turnbull and Palmateer is still among my favourite time as a Leaf fan post 1967.

 

[BillyD]

Youngster Carlyle was traded for the same "Draft Schmaft" that has exited forever in TO, with a focus always on winning now, with no patience to develop your own talent.

Dave Burrows and George Ferguson were veterans acquired in trade for Carlyle who went on to win the Norris trophy after being dealt.

PS. The Sittler Era, with MacDonald, Salming, Turnbull and Palmateer is still among my favourite time as a Leaf fan post 1967.

Carlyle AND Ferguson were traded for Burrows, it was not Carlyle FOR Ferguson and Burrows

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=10221#.UTTqFlfNmSo

 

[daveleaf]

I don't think that is too much of a big deal if you are right. If anything Mess is doing here is begin to show the long history the Leafs have shown of giving up on their younger players and not valuing draft pics.

Caryle was a hell of a player and one of the few guys that would hammer at the Canadiens each game of the next round. That team needed a little more depth down the middle and a little more scoring and they would have competed for a while. Sad what they did to that team. Lanny and Daryl were my fav players and Borje was right behind.

 

[BillyD]

I don't think that is too much of a big deal if you are right. If anything Mess is doing here is begin to show the long history the Leafs have shown of giving up on their younger players and not valuing draft pics.

Caryle was a hell of a player and one of the few guys that would hammer at the Canadiens each game of the next round. That team needed a little more depth down the middle and a little more scoring and they would have competed for a while. Sad what they did to that team. Lanny and Daryl were my fav players and Borje was right behind.

i agree its not that big of a deal, but i would expect to be corrected if i misstated the facts like that

carlyle was a highly regarded prospect drafted in the secound round by gm jim gregory at a time where we had a good draft record, and the trade was another typical "youth for now" backfire

in defence of gregory though, we were "all-in" when we made that trade and dave burrows was a highly regarded steady stay at home d-man when we picked him up who fit in with roger nielsen's defence first strategy whereas carlyle did not, surprising given his coaching philosophy

unfortunately, burrows like beauchemin and komisarek after him "crapped the bed" when he got here and carlyle blossomed into a superstar, unquestionably, with the benefit of hindsight this was one of the worst trades we have ever made, only the passage of time has diminshed the focus on this mistake

 

[Clark4Ever]

I remember watching this game as an infant with my Dad and my brother!

MacDonald in OT was a beauty!

 

[hockeyfanz*]

Yes what a game...what an upset. The Islanders were about to embark on their dynasty years. Was awesome.....remember it well. That was a great team...too bad the Habs and Isles were powerhouses in that era. Probably the one single goal that stands out for me on paar is the Nikolai Borchevsky goal to eliminate the Red Wings in the 93 playoff run.

 

[GFK27]

Youngster Carlyle was traded for the same "Draft Schmaft" that has exited forever in TO, with a focus always on winning now, with no patience to develop your own talent.

Dave Burrows and George Ferguson were veterans acquired in trade for Carlyle who went on to win the Norris trophy after being dealt.

PS. The Sittler Era, with MacDonald, Salming, Turnbull and Palmateer is still among my favourite time as a Leaf fan post 1967.

Carlye and George George Ferguson were sent to Pittsburgh for Burrows. George Ferguson was a great skater who scored some important goal in 1978 playoffs.

 

[Scintillating10]

This game is on Sportsnet now. Palmateer made great save on Nystrom.

Salming, Turnbull, Caryle, Glennie, Johnasen as a rookie. That was good defense. Must be about defense Leafs ever had. Sittler as franchise center, McDonald was good sniper. Maloney, William's that was tough team. Jimmy Jones, Butler good defensive 4th line. Ellis and Boutette good players also

Must been best team Lesfs had since '67. Good team! Islanders upset was not as big as most think. Lesfs had hell of a team also.

 

[crump]

I remember that goal. MacDonald (my favourite player back then) with his broken face in a cage, Leafs limped into the next round.

 

[ToneDog]

Youngster Carlyle was traded for the same "Draft Schmaft" that has exited forever in TO, with a focus always on winning now, with no patience to develop your own talent.

Dave Burrows and George Ferguson were veterans acquired in trade for Carlyle who went on to win the Norris trophy after being dealt.

PS. The Sittler Era, with MacDonald, Salming, Turnbull and Palmateer is still among my favourite time as a Leaf fan post 1967.

• 1978-Jun-14 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins to Toronto Maple Leafs for Randy Carlyle and George Ferguson
• 1980-Nov-08 Traded from Toronto Maple Leafs with Paul Gardner to Pittsburgh Penguins for Paul Marshall and Kim Davis

One terrible trade after another.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

Memories of having to watch that game as a child on a small b&w TV as my sister and Mother were watching "Little House on the Prarie" (or similar) on the family television and wouldn't give it up.
I was so happy when Lanny scored! He and Sittler were my favorite players.

 

[hoglund]

Memories of having to watch that game as a child on a small b&w TV as my sister and Mother were watching "Little House on the Prarie" (or similar) on the family television and wouldn't give it up.
I was so happy when Lanny scored! He and Sittler were my favorite players.

I was so upset when the Leafs traded Sittler to Philadelphia, I can't remember who they got for him.

 

[freshwind]

I was so upset when the Leafs traded Sittler to Philadelphia, I can't remember who they got for him.

rich costello and a draft pick that turned out to be peter ihnacak?
am i remembering correctly?
did not like that trade

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

rich costello and a draft pick that turned out to be peter ihnacak?
am i remembering correctly?
did not like that trade

Sounds about right. Yeah, Harold was a horrible, horrible owner and the cause of much Leaf misery.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Yes what a game...what an upset. The Islanders were about to embark on their dynasty years. Was awesome.....remember it well. That was a great team...too bad the Habs and Isles were powerhouses in that era. Probably the one single goal that stands out for me on paar is the Nikolai Borchevsky goal to eliminate the Red Wings in the 93 playoff run.

The Gilmour wraparound on Cujo is up there for me as well (though that obviously didn't have the drama of being game 7).

 

[Gary Nylund]

No leafs game this Saturday so I watched my favorite leaf game of all time online. I was just a little kid at the time but I wil always remember the OT winner by MacDonald.

Some things I noticed:

Watch this game if you want to see what Randy Carlyle is all about. We could use Glennie and Carlyle on this team. Tough and skilled with a great first pass. I don't know why we ever got rid of him. Could use Turnbull too.

Players from that era could all take care of themselves. Skill players don't get run because the stars would give you a mouthful of lumber if you tried. No helmets and no concussions but lots of stick work.

What an effort level on this team. Everyone finishing their checks.

The goalies look like peewees. I doubt we will ever see a small acrobatic goalie like Palmateer ever again.

If RC can get this current leaf team to compete like this I would be a very happy leaf fan

Yeah that was a really good D and IIRC, Carlyle played great in those playoffs. Carlyle left in the Burrows trade but the one that perhaps even worse than that in the same off-season was giving up Glennie in the trade for Dave Hutchinson who was a tough guy who could barely skate.

 

[The Nic]

rich costello and a draft pick that turned out to be peter ihnacak?
am i remembering correctly?
did not like that trade

Leafs got a Flyers draft pick named Ken Strong as well. I like Ihnacak as a player quite a lot... but that was one brutal trade in any case.

 

[Reydin]

Still my favourite/most memorable Leaf game of all time. The Sittler era was my introduction to the Leafs and the NHL.