LD Ty Smith - Spokane Chiefs, WHL (2018, 17th, NJD)

[My3Sons]

He is really bad at defending and moving the puck for someone getting first round consideration, doesn't have a ton of offensive potential either. Seems to have no idea what to do with the puck at times and can be a turnover machine. Skates brilliantly, however. No way should he be a top 15 pick but would be decent gamble in the bottom half or top of the 2nd that he can improve because he does make some nice plays at times and really is a good skater.

Saying he is really bad at defending is pretty hyperbolic. Also as a draft eligible defender to have more than a PPG suggests he has solid offensive upside. Have you watched him play that much to arrive at your conclusions?

 

[Enel]

How big of a difference is between Smith and the other 4 more discussed D's? (Boqvist, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson)

 

[Lays]

How big of a difference is between Smith and the other 4 more discussed D's? (Boqvist, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson)

I’m lower on Smith than most but there’s a huge difference between them and Smith for me

 

[docbenton]

Saying he is really bad at defending is pretty hyperbolic. Also as a draft eligible defender to have more than a PPG suggests he has solid offensive upside. Have you watched him play that much to arrive at your conclusions?

Didn't like him at Hlinka either. I watched 2 Spokane games and he had the same problems in both, slightly less magnified. You can say I haven't watched much league play but when you're bad in literally 100% of games including all U18 games maybe you're not a good player at this point in time.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

How big of a difference is between Smith and the other 4 more discussed D's? (Boqvist, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson)

I personally have him in the same tier as Dobson and Hughes. Behind Boqvist and ahead of Bouchard.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

Didn't like him at Hlinka either. I watched 2 Spokane games and he had the same problems in both, slightly less magnified. You can say I haven't watched much league play but when you're bad in literally 100% of games including all U18 games maybe you're not a good player at this point in time.

He was very good at the Hlinka. Was absolutely fantastic with Spokane this season. Had a very bad TPG and had a fairly rough u-18 but I personally still found him to be one of Canada`s best D-men.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Any fans that watch Spokane play regularly: Can Ty Smith play the right side? Does he ever line up there?

Pretty interested in Smith at 10th for the Oilers.

 

[Morgs]

As crazy as it sounds, i have him ranked at 3 after Dahlin and Svech.

The way he controls the game, and the way everyone on the ice plays at his speed is just ridiculous. The guy just has IQ through the roof.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

As crazy as it sounds, i have him ranked at 3 after Dahlin and Svech.

The way he controls the game, and the way everyone on the ice plays at his speed is just ridiculous. The guy just has IQ through the roof.

Yup his IQ is insane... whoever gets him will be extremely lucky.

I don't have him as high as you have him ranked but IMO he will be a HUGE steal if he falls out of top 10

 

[landy92mack29]

Any fans that watch Spokane play regularly: Can Ty Smith play the right side? Does he ever line up there?

Pretty interested in Smith at 10th for the Oilers.

Yes he can play both sides well.

 

[scoutsystem]

Yup his IQ is insane... whoever gets him will be extremely lucky.

I don't have him as high as you have him ranked but IMO he will be a HUGE steal if he falls out of top 10

I could see him going 11th, thats where we had him at our mock draft. His IQ is one of the best in this draft, the thing is there are so many great dmen projected to go early, we had 6 in our top 11 alone

 

[McTonyBrar]

This kid had 69 points. Over a ppg. What I don't understand is why he looks so uninteresting or flashy on the ice. What is so special about him in terms of skill?

 

[Kevin Musto]

This kid had 69 points. Over a ppg. What I don't understand is why he looks so uninteresting or flashy on the ice. What is so special about him in terms of skill?

Super high hockey IQ, reads the play well, great skater, fast, and overall incredibly reliable. Can't remember the last time I've seen him made a mistake.

 

[Petes2424]

As crazy as it sounds, i have him ranked at 3 after Dahlin and Svech.

The way he controls the game, and the way everyone on the ice plays at his speed is just ridiculous. The guy just has IQ through the roof.

Some team is going to be a very happy settling for Smith. Especially if Bouchard struggles to create space at the NHL level and Boqvist is 2-4 years away. Everything we see says both will be drafted ahead of Smith, which could make for some angry fans as they watch Smith playing in the NHL sooner, which is a distinct possibility.

 

[landy92mack29]

This kid had 69 points. Over a ppg. What I don't understand is why he looks so uninteresting or flashy on the ice. What is so special about him in terms of skill?

You must not have watched him in the WHL if you don't think he's flashy. Internationally he was put in a shutdown role which doesn't fit his strengths as well as more of a Karlsson role in Spokane does. He combines high IQ, great puck skills and skates like the wind.

 

[Morgs]

Skates like the wind, but also slows the game down to his level. Very few defenseman can dictate play the way he does.

 

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[McTonyBrar]

Any good Shift by Shift videos of Ty Smith (other than u18 one)?

 

[Stive Morgan]

As crazy as it sounds, i have him ranked at 3 after Dahlin and Svech.

The way he controls the game, and the way everyone on the ice plays at his speed is just ridiculous. The guy just has IQ through the roof.

I have him at #4. No clue why people are saying he can't play defense. He's one of the best defenders in the WHL already even as a '00 birthday.

 

[lawrence]

Mitch brown had a database like ranking system that ranked CHL defenders and fowards, Ty Smith Blew Dobson out of the water when it came out offensive contribution (helping his team generate shots on goal) blew him out of the water when it came too controlled offensive zone entries (this I assume bringing the puck onto enemy zone successfully ?) and a higher neutral zone defense rate.

whoever gets him will have a awesome prospect on hand.

 

[MessierII]

Most underrated prospect in the draft. Could easily end up being the 2nd best D man.

 

[McTonyBrar]

What's with some radio shows Kris Russell Comparables to Ty Smith?

 

[voxel]

What's with some radio shows Kris Russell Comparables to Ty Smith?

Kris Russell was considered an offensive D-man in junior as I recall.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Kris Russell was considered an offensive D-man in junior as I recall.

Yes but small defenseman back then weren't very effective in the NHL if I remember correctly

 

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