LD Rasmus Dahlin (2018, 1st, BUF) Part 3

[Steve Kournianos]

Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.

 

[Ace]

So neither should have been drafted before Svechnikov is what you’re saying

 

[nickdawg95]

Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.

you also said svechnikov should have went 1st overall last year.

 

[sabrebuild]

So neither should have been drafted before Svechnikov is what you’re saying

you also said svechnikov should have went 1st overall last year.

But it doesn’t count if I was just trolling for hits right?????

 

[1972]

Dahlin was everyone’s rookie of the month for November

 

[theslatcher]

Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.

...What?

Dahlin's d-zone deployment ES: 51.8%
Heiskanen's d-zone deployment ES: 49.5%

 

[Steve Kournianos]

...What?

Dahlin's d-zone deployment ES: 51.8%
Heiskanen's d-zone deployment ES: 49.5%

You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.

 

[Zaddy]

Would be nice if some mod could come in and make sure this thread stays on topic. Kinda boring to read about Heiskanen 24/7 in a discussion thread about Dahlin.

 

[theslatcher]

You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.

Sounds like a good thing for fantasy hockey leagues, but I don't think there's much merit there for determining players' level of play.

And truthfully idk if zone deployment is that good of a metric either.

 

[1972]

You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.

You are trying too hard

 

[nickdawg95]

You are trying too hard

everyone and their mother is trying to discredit what dahlin is doing at 18 it's hilarious

 

[Ace]

Now has more points than years on Earth.

 

[Ace]

45 point pace. Which would be a good rookie season for anyone. And a great season for anyone 18 years old the whole season. Also he’s a defenseman.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

I'll say this Sabres fans, your teams future is a helluva lot brighter than Dallas. Being in the same division as us, we beat them all the time, there's not a lot there and certainly nothing that says they will make any kind of an impact anytime soon.

 

[Kcb12345]

I'll say this Sabres fans, your teams future is a helluva lot brighter than Dallas. Being in the same division as us, we beat them all the time, there's not a lot there and certainly nothing that says they will make any kind of an impact anytime soon.

All it takes is a few bottom of the league finishes and high draft picks and then we're right past where they are. Stars D-core is set long term and is young, goaltending duo is good enough, and they just need maybe 2 prospects to hit and become top 6 players. Then we're good

And our stupid GM to stop signing old guys

 

[Muffin]

45 point pace. Which would be a good rookie season for anyone. And a great season for anyone 18 years old the whole season. Also he’s a defenseman.

With how slow he started I wouldn't be surprised if he hit 50-60 points.

 

[sadpanda]

finns and star fans are so insecure about their terrible team / players

Funny you say that. I've seen you saying silly stuff in the Heiskanen thread aswell.

Both are great players, just shut it kiddos and we can live in peace

 

[Team Cozens]

5 points last 2 games. 18 year old defenceman.

 

[McClelland]

First Quarter to adjust and play safe! Now he will unleash his offensive skillset more and more, he will be a Beast in the leuage, maybe already next season!

 

[wetcoast]

First Quarter to adjust and play safe! Now he will unleash his offensive skillset more and more, he will be a Beast in the leuage, maybe already next season!

I think that he might be considered a beast before the year is done.

He is currently sitting just outside of top 20 for Dmen scoring this year.

 

[nickdawg95]

Funny you say that. I've seen you saying silly stuff in the Heiskanen thread aswell.

Both are great players, just shut it kiddos and we can live in peace

i only started doing as of friday, i do it everytime i see heiskanen mention here because it's been going on for months now and mods here are Pejorative Slured and allow this shit to happen, not even in a subjective thread like "who are the best young dman in the league" it's in this thread a thread about dahlin DAHLIN not anyone else.

 

[sadpanda]

i only started doing as of friday, i do it everytime i see heiskanen mention here because it's been going on for months now and mods here are ******ed and allow this **** to happen, not even in a subjective thread like "who are the best young dman in the league" it's in this thread a thread about dahlin DAHLIN not anyone else.

Well. You are not any better. You got no reason to whine lol

 

[sadpanda]

err delete

 

[nickdawg95]

Well. You are not any better. You got no reason to whine lol

not whining, just funny how unless it's in a leafs thread mods here don't do anything

 

[SabresSharks]

His d-zone play hasn't been great the last few games. Some sloppy passes, chasing the play a bit, weak on the puck sometimes.

I might be nit-picking here, but let's not pretend he's perfect. Yet.