Last year 2nd round

[All Star United]

It now seems clear that last year draft was deeper than this year's. So my question is how would be this year's draft if the players of the second round last year were to be included (see http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html)? Where would go players like Richmond, Stone, Eriksson, Egener, Smaby, Pushkarev, Bergeron, Fritshe, Carle, Chernykh, Weber, Tunik, O'Sullivan, ...?

How would you rank the top 30? Obviously, Ovechkin and Malkin would be Top 2, an probably the Top 5 would remain unchanged, but after that, what do you think would happen?

IMO, I think there are at least 5 to 10 players of last year secound round that could go in the first this year. What do you think?

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[BrooklynCanuck]

Fritsche could have been top 15 last year if not for shoulder troubles.

 

[sharkyz15]

It now seems clear that last year draft was deeper than this year's. So my question is how would be this year's draft if the players of the second round last year were to be included (see http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html)? Where would go players like Richmond, Stone, Eriksson, Egener, Smaby, Pushkarev, Bergeron, Fritshe, Carle, Chernykh, Weber, Tunik, O'Sullivan, ...?

How would you rank the top 30? Obviously, Ovechkin and Malkin would be Top 2, an probably the Top 5 would remain unchanged, but after that, what do you think would happen?

IMO, I think there are at least 5 to 10 players of last year secound round that could go in the first this year. What do you think?

Dont forget Josh Hennessy

He could be the best of the group

Igor Mirnov will also be a dynamic player

 

[Ajacied]

Loui Eriksson would probably go between 15 and 20th in the current draft I'd say..

 

[Crosbyfan]

It now seems clear that last year draft was deeper than this year's. So my question is how would be this year's draft if the players of the second round last year were to be included (see http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html)? Where would go players like Richmond, Stone, Eriksson, Egener, Smaby, Pushkarev, Bergeron, Fritshe, Carle, Chernykh, Weber, Tunik, O'Sullivan, ...?

How would you rank the top 30? Obviously, Ovechkin and Malkin would be Top 2, an probably the Top 5 would remain unchanged, but after that, what do you think would happen?

IMO, I think there are at least 5 to 10 players of last year secound round that could go in the first this year. What do you think?

Late bloomer Bergeron followed by early bloomer Ovechkin followed by Malkin...

 

[All Star United]

Late bloomer Bergeron followed by early bloomer Ovechkin followed by Malkin...

Really? You would take Bergeron ahead of Ovechkin and Malkin?

 

[Crosbyfan]

Really? You would take Bergeron ahead of Ovechkin and Malkin?

On what I know about Bergeron and what little I know about Ovechkin/Malkin, yes. Bergeron is roughly same age as Ovechkin. Ovechkin was by far the best 16 year old of the three and Bergeron by far the worst. Ovechkin was the best 17 year old of the three and Bergeron most improved but still third. Ovechkin is arguably the better 18 year old (Malkin still 17 I think) but Bergeron is close. So I see Bergeron as improving faster than ANYONE in his age group. The question is when will Bergeron plateau. Malkin may not be NHL ready yet, but one year ago (at Malkin's current age) Bergeron looked like he might make the NHL somedaybut certainly not in the near future.

Be interesting to see how they compare next year.

 

[Dave is a killer]

Weber, Klein, and Glazachev - Weber and Klein's teams both made the Memorial Cup Finals in Kelowna, with Weber's (Host) team winning it all

 

[markov`]

On what I know about Bergeron and what little I know about Ovechkin/Malkin, yes. Bergeron is roughly same age as Ovechkin. Ovechkin was by far the best 16 year old of the three and Bergeron by far the worst. Ovechkin was the best 17 year old of the three and Bergeron most improved but still third. Ovechkin is arguably the better 18 year old (Malkin still 17 I think) but Bergeron is close. So I see Bergeron as improving faster than ANYONE in his age group. The question is when will Bergeron plateau. Malkin may not be NHL ready yet, but one year ago (at Malkin's current age) Bergeron looked like he might make the NHL somedaybut certainly not in the near future.

Be interesting to see how they compare next year.

 

[Frolov]

On what I know about Bergeron and what little I know about Ovechkin/Malkin, yes. Bergeron is roughly same age as Ovechkin. Ovechkin was by far the best 16 year old of the three and Bergeron by far the worst. Ovechkin was the best 17 year old of the three and Bergeron most improved but still third. Ovechkin is arguably the better 18 year old (Malkin still 17 I think) but Bergeron is close. So I see Bergeron as improving faster than ANYONE in his age group. The question is when will Bergeron plateau. Malkin may not be NHL ready yet, but one year ago (at Malkin's current age) Bergeron looked like he might make the NHL somedaybut certainly not in the near future.

Be interesting to see how they compare next year.

1+1 = 11??

 

[Team_Spirit]

Dont forget Josh Hennessy

He could be the best of the group

Igor Mirnov will also be a dynamic player

yep , last year 2nd round was really solid imo .

 

[Crosbyfan]

1+1 = 11??

23+12 < 39

 

[Flames Draft Watcher]

On what I know about Bergeron and what little I know about Ovechkin/Malkin, yes. Bergeron is roughly same age as Ovechkin. Ovechkin was by far the best 16 year old of the three and Bergeron by far the worst. Ovechkin was the best 17 year old of the three and Bergeron most improved but still third. Ovechkin is arguably the better 18 year old (Malkin still 17 I think) but Bergeron is close. So I see Bergeron as improving faster than ANYONE in his age group. The question is when will Bergeron plateau. Malkin may not be NHL ready yet, but one year ago (at Malkin's current age) Bergeron looked like he might make the NHL somedaybut certainly not in the near future.

Be interesting to see how they compare next year.

Bergeron is really good but the two Russians are projected to be elite, elite players. Hall of famers if they stay healthy.

I really don't see Bergeron as comparable. Malkin and Ovechkin are expected to end up better.

 

[Crosbyfan]

Bergeron is really good but the two Russians are projected to be elite, elite players. Hall of famers if they stay healthy.

I really don't see Bergeron as comparable. Malkin and Ovechkin are expected to end up better.

Good thing Bergeron doesn't know this. He didn't know he wasn't suppose to make the Bruins last year either. Instead he surprised everyone being their 6th highest scorer in the regular season and 4th in the playoffs including leading the team in +/-with a +5 in the 7 games, before playing a role in Canada's gold medal at the WCs. Not bad for an unknown guy playing Midget 2 years ago. He still won't turn 19 for another month yet an awful lot of people seem to feel they have a good grasp of his limits.

 

[Epsilon]

This is why teams do not hire fanboys as their scouts.

 

[Crosbyfan]

This is why teams do not hire fanboys as their scouts.

Keep your day job Mr. Brule#1 in 2005.