Prospect Info: Lassi Thomson, Defence, 19th Overall

[Hale The Villain]

I don't quite understand the hate for this guy right now.

I remember when many were upset we drafted Chabot and didn't get his d partner Zboril . Or how we took White and passed on Koneckny .

You can go further back to Karlsson , Hossa etc The list goes on.

I think we need to give the scouts some credit and see how Lassi progresses .

I remember people upset that we passed on Couturier for Zibanejad, as well as when we selected Lazar over Mantha, Bowers over Tolvanen, and of course when we traded the 16th pick for Rundblad instead of drafting Tarasenko.

It goes both ways. Sens scouts have been hit or miss in the 1st round, and do not deserve blind faith in their decisions.

 

[DJB]

I remember people upset that we passed on Couturier for Zibanejad, as well as when we selected Lazar over Mantha, Bowers over Tolvanen, and of course when we traded the 16th pick for Rundblad instead of drafting Tarasenko.

It goes both ways. Sens scouts have been hit or miss in the 1st round, and do not deserve blind faith in their decisions.

Well i certainly didnt say blind faith.

As far as the picks, Couturier slight edge over Zib.

Lazar over Mantha is an obvious one. I too was in the Mantha group.

Too early to say about Bowers / Tolvanen.

We dont do Russians so obviously we were passing on Tarasenko. It is what it is.

Lassi looks like a top 4 D to me and that's decent value at 19.

 

[Senscore]

I remember people upset that we passed on Couturier for Zibanejad, as well as when we selected Lazar over Mantha, Bowers over Tolvanen, and of course when we traded the 16th pick for Rundblad instead of drafting Tarasenko.

It goes both ways. Sens scouts have been hit or miss in the 1st round, and do not deserve blind faith in their decisions.

Its amazing to me that both Couturier and Zibby have become pretty good players to the point where either turned out to be the right call but it doesn't matter now because we have neither.

 

[Icelevel]

Its amazing to me that both Couturier and Zibby have become pretty good players to the point where either turned out to be the right call but it doesn't matter now because we have neither.

I don’t think “either” was “the right call” because they were looking to trade zibanejad almost right away. Doubt that would have happened with couturier.

 

[Senscore]

I don’t think “either” was “the right call” because they were looking to trade zibanejad almost right away. Doubt that would have happened with couturier.

I also remember a number of people being upset we missed Strome.

 

[Daffy]

Well i certainly didnt say blind faith.

As far as the picks, Couturier slight edge over Zib.

Lazar over Mantha is an obvious one. I too was in the Mantha group.

Too early to say about Bowers / Tolvanen.

We dont do Russians so obviously we were passing on Tarasenko. It is what it is.

Lassi looks like a top 4 D to me and that's decent value at 19.

Couturier has a huge edge over Zibanejad. It's not even close. Couturier is better at pretty much everything.

 

[Icelevel]

Couturier has a huge edge over Zibanejad. It's not even close. Couturier is better at pretty much everything.

Zib is a better skater and has a better shot and is bigger.

 

[Icelevel]

I also remember a number of people being upset we missed Strome.

I think I was actually. But couturier was my first choice for that pick. I didn’t know much about zibanejad

 

[Qward]

I don't quite understand the hate for this guy right now.

I remember when many were upset we drafted Chabot and didn't get his d partner Zboril . Or how we took White and passed on Koneckny .

You can go further back to Karlsson , Hossa etc The list goes on.

I think we need to give the scouts some credit and see how Lassi progresses .

People get excited for goal scorers. They get disappointed when you draft a defenseman.
I am fine with it. My only concern is that we have a good track record drafting Europeans thanks to Ruutu, but Ruutu didnt scout Thomson. The guy that scouted Tychonick and Crookshank did.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I also remember a number of people being upset we missed Strome.

Including the Sens scouting staff, which apparently had him above Zibanejad on their list.

Not unreasonable, given that he lit up the OHL in his draft year.

 

[R2010]

Couturier has a huge edge over Zibanejad. It's not even close. Couturier is better at pretty much everything.

During their respective careers Couturier has been a 51/82 points player versus Zibanejad who has been a 49/82 points player. In their most recent year Zibanejad had 2 less points. In Zibanejad's playoff career he has produced more than Couturier on a per game basis. We may individually like or value players more but there is no huge edge.

 

[DJB]

During their respective careers Couturier has been a 51/82 points player versus Zibanejad who has been a 49/82 points player. In their most recent year Zibanejad had 2 less points. In Zibanejad's playoff career he has produced more than Couturier on a per game basis. We may individually like or value players more but there is no huge edge.

Not to mention Couts big year also coincides with playing with Giroux. Everyone who plays with Giroux has a big year.

Zib played with who exactly?

The thoughts that Couturier is significantly better than Zibanejad is sillyness.

 

[DJB]

People get excited for goal scorers. They get disappointed when you draft a defenseman.
I am fine with it. My only concern is that we have a good track record drafting Europeans thanks to Ruutu, but Ruutu didnt scout Thomson. The guy that scouted Tychonick and Crookshank did.

Well wouldn't Ruutu have seen him two years ago in Finland? Mann talked about how the scouts watch these guys before their D1 year so im guessing he was seen by our Euro scout.

 

[R2010]

Not to mention Couts big year also coincides with playing with Giroux. Everyone who plays with Giroux has a big year.

Zib played with who exactly?

The thoughts that Couturier is significantly better than Zibanejad is sillyness.

Absolutely. Zibanejad was a good pick where we got him. People just get frustrated at the potential but realistically maybe he should have had to grow up a bit first before making the NHL instead of being in the league at 18, 19 and 20. Injury filled seasons at that. This is a guy that would have benefited from coming over and playing junior hockey post draft IMO.

Either way we made a brutal brutal trade.

 

[DJB]

Absolutely. Zibanejad was a good pick where we got him. People just get frustrated at the potential but realistically maybe he should have had to grow up a bit first before making the NHL instead of being in the league at 18, 19 and 20. Injury filled seasons at that. This is a guy that would have benefited from coming over and playing junior hockey post draft IMO.

Either way we made a brutal brutal trade.

All our trades have been to save $$$

Zibanejad - Due a contract dealt for cost controlled Brassard
Brassard - Dealt for picks and prospects when he needed a new contract
Turris - Needs new contract dealt for Duchene
Karlsson - Dealt because needed new contract
Duchene - Dealt because needed new contract
Stone - Dealt because needed new contract

If anyone that doest see the pattern here is either blind or ignorant.

 

[Icelevel]

All our trades have been to save $$$

Zibanejad - Due a contract dealt for cost controlled Brassard
Brassard - Dealt for picks and prospects when he needed a new contract
Turris - Needs new contract dealt for Duchene
Karlsson - Dealt because needed new contract
Duchene - Dealt because needed new contract
Stone - Dealt because needed new contract

If anyone that doest see the pattern here is either blind or ignorant.

Except with zibanejad there were rumours for a couple years he might be traded. Too much djing etc. Out of shape.
Was a real thing.

 

[Daffy]

Not to mention Couts big year also coincides with playing with Giroux. Everyone who plays with Giroux has a big year.

Zib played with who exactly?

The thoughts that Couturier is significantly better than Zibanejad is sillyness.

He's a much better all around player.

 

[h2]

That Zibanejad trade still stings! Never liked it from the moment it was announced. Not sure how we ended up being the team swapping the higher pick either.

 

[Tuna99]

All our trades have been to save $$$

Zibanejad - Due a contract dealt for cost controlled Brassard
Brassard - Dealt for picks and prospects when he needed a new contract
Turris - Needs new contract dealt for Duchene
Karlsson - Dealt because needed new contract
Duchene - Dealt because needed new contract
Stone - Dealt because needed new contract

If anyone that doest see the pattern here is either blind or ignorant.

Ceci needs a contract. So does DeMelo. Our right side D at years end will be

Jaros
Boro
Boro’s Dad

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That Zibanejad trade still stings! Never liked it from the moment it was announced. Not sure how we ended up being the team swapping the higher pick either.

MISTAKE ... sign of things to come.. No sign of improvement

 

[HSF]

Maybe we should stay on topic and talk about the kid we drafted

The sens have a nice stable of defensemen. Hoping for a top line fwd in the next draft if we finish last

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Maybe we should stay on topic and talk about the kid we drafted

The sens have a nice stable of defensemen. Hoping for a top line fwd in the next draft if we finish last

Good point .. At 19 if your looking or the best RHD on the board with the most skills this is the guy. If that's the priority and it very much looks like it was they got the right guy.

 

[HSF]

Good point .. At 19 if your looking or the best RHD on the board with the most skills this is the guy. If that's the priority and it very much looks like it was they got the right guy.

Yup and next year draft seems to have some high end forwards available early ( I know lots can change )

If we can secure a top line centre prospect we are looking decent

 

[h2]

Yup and next year draft seems to have some high end forwards available early ( I know lots can change )

If we can secure a top line centre prospect we are looking decent

Agree there. I think the next draft (and 2021) will determine what trajectory we take as a franchise for the next 5-10 years. We need to hit it out of the park.

 

[DJB]

He's a much better all around player.

Doesn't move the needle much to me to say hes significantly better.