La liga 2021-2022

[les Habs]

Frenkie, Gavi both getting injuries.

Pjanic maybe out the door too. Umtiti will probably start in midfield ahead of Riqui...

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Official Announcement | Real Madrid CF

Real are against the agreement.

 

[les Habs]

Official Announcement | Real Madrid CF

Real are against the agreement.

I still hate Madrid, but respect for that decision.

 

[Havre]

What is La Liga getting from that deal other than short term cash?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

What is La Liga getting from that deal other than short term cash?

Short term cash.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Barca cant go without a ten and nominate Fati.

 

[Havre]

Short term cash.

Thanks. Sounds like pissing in your pants kind of thing to me?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Thanks. Sounds like pissing in your pants kind of thing to me?

Well, basically, they would be selling 10% of the league to an investor and that investor would have some sort of control over TV right money for the next 50 years.

It is a ludicrous proposition. Barca and Real were never going to go for it. They need money, but they want to control that money. They always were favored in the TV money distribution.

This is also why they want the Super League, they want to control the revenue stream.

 

[Havre]

Well, basically, they would be selling 10% of the league to an investor and that investor would have some sort of control over TV right money for the next 50 years.

It is a ludicrous proposition. Barca and Real were never going to go for it. They need money, but they want to control that money. They always were favored in the TV money distribution.

This is also why they want the Super League, they want to control the revenue stream.

Exactly. Short term benefit - long term issues.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Coutniho, pjanic, Sam and Roberto are 4 of the 5 highest earners at barca. Not a single one of them should show their face again.

 

[les Habs]

Coutniho, pjanic, Sam and Roberto are 4 of the 5 highest earners at barca. Not a single one of them should show their face again.

Well the obvious missing name there is Griezmann, but from what I've seen Dembele is up there too. Either way, give it a rest. Their right to agree a contract if it's on the table. Blame the previous board. That said the current board should jettison a lot of the top earners.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Well the obvious missing name there is Griezmann, but from what I've seen Dembele is up there too. Either way, give it a rest. Their right to agree a contract if it's on the table. Blame the previous board. That said the current board should jettison a lot of the top earners.

Griezzy is at least good. I wouldn’t have these guys play at la masia tbh.

 

[les Habs]

Griezzy is at least good. I wouldn’t have these guys play at la masia tbh.

I don't know if "good" is the word I'd use. It isn't actually, at least not for us. And even if he is "good", it's not good enough to justify what we're paying him.

If Sergi agrees a significant reduction in wages I'm fine with. Dembele too with a lesser reduction in wages, but I'd then look to sell him next Summer pending this season (unless of course he doesn't agree a new deal and I'd offload him this Summer). Yeah though, not even in the B team. I'd only give them the option of either leaving or sitting out the season.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Messi has a presser tomorrow from the camp nou.

 

[Evilo]

Coutniho, pjanic, Sam and Roberto are 4 of the 5 highest earners at barca. Not a single one of them should show their face again.

What's Aguero's salary? 6M.
What's Garcia's salary? 6M.
What's Depay's salary? 6M.
What was Wij's proposal? 8M or so.

That's a good chunk of Messi's salary here. Not everything is the previous board or players fault. This is a whole Barca system that needs to be reconsidered.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

What's Aguero's salary? 6M.
What's Garcia's salary? 6M.
What's Depay's salary? 6M.
What was Wij's proposal? 8M or so.

That's a good chunk of Messi's salary here. Not everything is the previous board or players fault. This is a whole Barca system that needs to be reconsidered.

Where did you get that number for garcia seems off. The others who are pure garbage are making double that or more. Clearly that’s a bigger issue.

 

[Evilo]

Where did you get that number for garcia seems off. The others who are pure garbage are making double that or more. Clearly that’s a bigger issue.

L'Equipe.
And no, the others are less of an issue because Barca DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY to spend on those 4 guys.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

L'Equipe.
And no, the others are less of an issue because Barca DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY to spend on those 4 guys.

If those clowns reduced their wages messi would still be here it’s that simple. Even if you take out Depay , garcia and kun they can’t register messi. Nothing I’ve read suggest garcia is making that much btw.

if he is then I’ll concede it’s part of the problem lesser than the bozos previously mentioned. Also if your angling the problem with this board I made my feelings known in the other thread. Plenty of blame to be passed around.

 

[Evilo]

L'Equipe reports it today. Which is laughable really since Garcia hasn't done anything to deserve such a salary.

But when you spent big on something that didn't work out (the players you're talking about), you don't EXPECT them all to cut their salaries while throwing money around to players you don't need.
It is IMO a much bigger problem to spend money you don't have this summer than overpay like they did when they felt they had the means previously.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Different perspective one gets you messi when doesn’t…

Mind you a blind monkey would have seen that 3/4 of those players aren’t worth jack.

 

[Evilo]

Since 2014, Barca has spent 1.27 billion on transfers (not counting the outrageous salaries).
As a reminder, they spent 34M (+7M bonus) on Arda Turan, 35M (+20M bonus) on Andre Gomes or 41M (+1M) on Malcom. Let's not forget the 30M in Braithwaite.
They also undersold many players like Rafinha, Suarez, while pushing their salaries to amazing heights (both to newcomers or "historical" players).
IMO, Laporta has joined the company this summer.
Sure he tried to get free players, but Barca has plenty of offensive players, and they didn't need Depay, Wijnaldum nor Aguero (a little more in Aguero's case, but he's damaged goods). Garcia isn't needed either and his salary is a joke.
If they wanted to sign those guys, then they should have dumped all the dead wood first.
Blaming the players for Messi's departure is just wrong. Who would reject those proposals? Nobody. And why would they lower their salary in order to sign more competition for their spots (Depay, Aguero, Garcia)?
Just the other day I read Barca is considering cutting Umtiti's salary under the reason that he's not "capable" of doing his job.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He isn’t and hasn’t for a long time.

 

[Evilo]

He isn’t and hasn’t for a long time.

He is capable of playing football. Badly, but he's still able to play.

 

[PeteWorrell]

What exactly caused Umtitis fall? I know that he had an injury and then he fought with the club on how to treat it but not much else.

 

[Evilo]

His injury was pretty bad. Career threatning.
Since then he's capable of playing, but he needs less pressure, a better teammate, and some regular playing time to come back.
His confidence seems shot and he's mentally weak, also because of the context.
For real, if he signs with the right environment, he could come back to a good level.