Indeed. That's what i tried to mention the team is valued more in LA than it is in Seattle. Plus it'll cause the rest of the leagues team values to drop as well. I don't see NBA ever allowing it at all. Some excuses say but NBA moved a team out of the 14th market to the 43rd in the tv market. Yet the value of the OKC is higher than when Bennett bought the team plus NBA had a legitimate reason to move the Sonics.
LA Clippers to announce plans for new arena in Inglewood
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Indeed. That's what i tried to mention the team is valued more in LA than it is in Seattle. Plus it'll cause the rest of the leagues team values to drop as well. I don't see NBA ever allowing it at all. Some excuses say but NBA moved a team out of the 14th market to the 43rd in the tv market. Yet the value of the OKC is higher than when Bennett bought the team plus NBA had a legitimate reason to move the Sonics.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Seattle has a right to be bitter. They got screwed over. They are great fans. They want a team back like LA wanted an NFL team back for a generation. I did the same thing every time any other team had a dispute with their city
I am not saying the clipper should or shouldn't move there just saying that I know how Seattle people feel
Trust me i wasn't pleased with how it happened. I understand why the team moved and from a business perspective it made sense. But the idea that we should be hoping some other team would fail at getting a building so we can just take them isn't a direction anyone should be taking. Like i said its a small minority group that believe Balmer will move the team and get sodo arena built which isn't going to happen. Majority of us fans up here are for expansion not relocation.
Interesting enough Balmer still gets asked about if he's gonna the move the team to Seattle.
Lt Dan
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I totally agree.
The problem is teams "talk" to your city and make it public and use that as leverage. It is natural and totally acceptable to get excited that you might be getting a team.
In your case I wanted expansion or The Rams back. I got lucky, I hope you guys do too.
The Oilers owner' attempted that once with Seattle and well he backpedaled quickly.
Well we got the biggest issue dealt with which is the arena and now we just wait for the NBA to act. Seriously it would be good to see the clippers in their own building out side the Laker's shadow. Of course folks up here that are anti seattle center pro sodo group (small vocal group) think just cause Balmer is building 100% private funded arena for the clippers that its a good idea to have a 2nd building up here in Seattle which won't work. What Balmer is doing is an exemption not the norm.
PCSPounder
Stadium Groupie
Actually, I shouldn't even have made a bet out of it. I missed this comment in the article.
This is going to be a basketball arena, no hockey accommodation. SLC's arena is at least as bad as Barclay's for hockey. Oracle was reconfigured to take hockey out of the equation.
Well, if you followed expansion history in the early 90’s, there was a Seattle bid during the TB/Ott round. NBA owner at the time and another party each had a bid so they combined their bids together. City offered to blow up the Key to build brand new if they got an nhl team.
Late in the process the nba owner backed out, last minute and left their partner hanging. Thus the key was just remodeled for basketball only.
Can blame the sonic leaving back to that. As a rebuilt Key in the mid 90’s would be on par with their neighbours north/south in Rogers arena and Moda Center.
Yep. NBA create that mess in Seattle. Can't blame it solely on the goverment here but in the end we are getting what we should have gotten in the 90's a modern state of an art building for both leagues. Us hockey fans are still bitty about that which is well ignored by the small group of vocal fans. i had to remind them about it was the late owner that screw things up for both the NHL and the NBA here in Seattle.
Hopefully Balmer gets his arena finalized and gets through all that red tape soon.
Balmer goes after Dolan
Steve Ballmer sends message to James Dolan over new Clippers arena: ‘You can’t knock us down!’
Steve Ballmer sent a public warning to James Dolan as the two continue their billionaire Battle Royale over land in California.
"You want to hit us in the nose? OK! We'll keep moving,” Ballmer told reporters Thursday. “You can't knock us down! I'm not sure they understand what they've gotten themselves into, from my perspective in the sense that we'll just keep going.”
Ballmer is determined to build his new Clippers arena in Inglewood despite the opposition from Dolan, who wants to avoid the venue competition with his Forum just a mile away from the proposed construction site. Dolan has levied lawsuits and bankrolled a failed mayoral candidacy in Inglewood to block the project, despite the new Clippers arena being supported by NBA commissioner Adam Silver.
Steve Ballmer sends message to James Dolan over new Clippers arena: ‘You can’t knock us down!’
Steve Ballmer sent a public warning to James Dolan as the two continue their billionaire Battle Royale over land in California.
"You want to hit us in the nose? OK! We'll keep moving,” Ballmer told reporters Thursday. “You can't knock us down! I'm not sure they understand what they've gotten themselves into, from my perspective in the sense that we'll just keep going.”
Ballmer is determined to build his new Clippers arena in Inglewood despite the opposition from Dolan, who wants to avoid the venue competition with his Forum just a mile away from the proposed construction site. Dolan has levied lawsuits and bankrolled a failed mayoral candidacy in Inglewood to block the project, despite the new Clippers arena being supported by NBA commissioner Adam Silver.
BKIslandersFan
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It would seem a lot easier if Ballmer just paid back Dolan his investment in to the Forum, which was reported to be around $50M.
Considering the project is slated to be around billion, whats another 60 million or so?
Considering the project is slated to be around billion, whats another 60 million or so?
Mightygoose
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It's always fun when there's a wedge within the club. Publicly Silver will be diplomatic but I think him and a majority of the other owners will back Balmer on this.
A new arena will take precedence (and raise franchise values better) than someone's concert only venue.
MMC
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Of course Balmer would throw money to settle that issue. But glad to see one roadblock is eliminated.
LadyStanley
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/17/la-...00-million-plus-arena-naming-rights-deal.html
$500m+ 23-year naming rights deal.
So Staples, Intuit and the old Forum -- lots of options and competition for concerts and stuff. (Also another site for LA to host Olympics)
$500m+ 23-year naming rights deal.
So Staples, Intuit and the old Forum -- lots of options and competition for concerts and stuff. (Also another site for LA to host Olympics)
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
I am still surprised by this. I get the whole not sharing an arena with the legendary franchise part, but the smarter and much cheaper route would still be to move to OC and share the Ponda with the Ducks.
OC get's an NBA team your fanbase grows.
Win , win , win . Right?
OC get's an NBA team your fanbase grows.
Win , win , win . Right?
royals119
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The financial details aren't in the article, but I assume this new arena will be owned/operated by the Clippers. They get to keep more money this way, like concessions, parking, a cut of concerts and other events, maybe some land rights to developments around the arena, or maybe they own some restaurants or other businesses nearby that will benefit from the arena. If they move to the Ducks arena they are still a tenant, paying rent to someone else, without the additional revenue streams that their own arena would provide. I didn't look up the population numbers, but I assume if they have 25% of the LA basketball fans vs 100% of the Anaheim fans, they are still better off in LA. Sometimes the small fish in the big pond is better off than the big fish in the small pond.I am still surprised by this. I get the whole not sharing an arena with the legendary franchise part, but the smarter and much cheaper route would still be to move to OC and share the Ponda with the Ducks.
OC get's an NBA team your fanbase grows.
Win , win , win . Right?
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
I would be incredibly shocked if the clippers had anywhere close to 25% of the LA fans.
I would think the number is much closer to 5%. Most Clippers fans are contrarians or people that just outright hate the Lakers. They moved to LA around 1984 and historically been a laughing stock.
I do realize they have been much better under Balmer but I rarely if ever see someone wearing Clippers gear or Clippers anything on a car.
The population numbers are 10M for LA county and a little over 3m for OC. OC could also attracted some San Diego fans as well.
royals119
Registered User
Just for fun I looked at attendance numbers. The Lakers beat the clippers by about 1000 fans a game for 2018 and 2019. The Clippers beat the Lakers by a bit for the four years prior to that. (I didn't look at 2020 obviously). Doesn't seem like the tickets sold number is big economic issue for the Clippers. Merchandise sales might go up with a move, but even a 100% increase is going to be small potatoes compared to the extra income from being the sole tenant of your own building where you control all the cash flow, and probably some other development. Plus I would think the Clippers probably get an attendance boost in LA for while just by having a new building. Having more fans isn't really a benefit if you don't have a way to make money off of them.
MMC
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The Clippers would barely be any more popular if they moved to Anaheim, if at all. The area is almost all Lakers fans who wouldn't change.
HisIceness
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BKIslandersFan
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KingLB
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I think/thought Balmer bought the Forum with the intention of tearing it down for this, or parking for this?
ForsbergForever
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Doesn't the Forum have some sort of landmark/heritage status to prevent it from being torn down?
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