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Looked like they were called up. I understand Kylington but why Lomberg?
Is there a source with the call-ups?
Lomberg's development is the most disposable and will not likely play a minute. Lomberg is also waiver exempt. Kylington on the other hand may be played a game if he practices well for the team. The brass knows to keep Kylington developing and happy he has to see that the Flames see him in their line-up.
Good question. I asked the same thing in the gdt thread. If anyone deserves a call up it's Mangiapane or Rychel. Don't understand why Lomberg over those two.Looked like they were called up. I understand Kylington but why Lomberg?
Good question. I asked the same thing in the gdt thread. If anyone deserves a call up it's Mangiapane or Rychel. Don't understand why Lomberg over those two.
Then why call up Kylington? Is he a popcorn muncher?Because either of those guys would likely just be eating popcorn. Lomberg is a popcorn muncher, that’s why he got the call.
It's simple; Mangiapane is injured while Rychel is terrible. Upper management clearly likes Lomberg and the intangibles he brings; they call him up a lot. Kylington was called up because Prout was just sent down on a conditioning stint so he could get some games in. And none of the other options down there (Valiev, Healey, Hogstrum) are actually viable at this point.
On a related note, the goaltending situation down in Stockton is absolutely fascinating. In seven games, Nick Schnieder has a 1.57 goals against average and a 0.948 save percentage. Good for second in the entire league for qualifying goalies.
On the other hand, Jon Gillies is dead last at 53rd overall, sporting a 4.77 GAA and a 0.848 save percentage in 13 games.
Parsons has terrible numbers too but has only three games played (currently injured).
Highlights from the last game (Gillies pulled after letting in 5):
It's simple; Mangiapane is injured while Rychel is terrible. Upper management clearly likes Lomberg and the intangibles he brings; they call him up a lot. Kylington was called up because Prout was just sent down on a conditioning stint so he could get some games in. And none of the other options down there (Valiev, Healey, Hogstrum) are actually viable at this point.
On a related note, the goaltending situation down in Stockton is absolutely fascinating. In seven games, Nick Schnieder has a 1.57 goals against average and a 0.948 save percentage. Good for second in the entire league for qualifying goalies.
On the other hand, Jon Gillies is dead last at 53rd overall, sporting a 4.77 GAA and a 0.848 save percentage in 13 games.
Parsons has terrible numbers too but has only three games played (currently injured).
Highlights from the last game (Gillies pulled after letting in 5):
The only reason why Rittich stayed with the Flames and Gillies was sent down was because Gillies was waiver exempt. I suspect that if both were waiver exempt Gillies would have stayed up, for the reasons you've given. I do think that Rittich played better over all than Gillies last year.Gillies still has a tangible shot at becoming our back-up next year since I doubt Smith is coming back. His contract expires at the end of the 19-20 season so he'll get his chance in pre-season again, maybe even this season if Smith can't put it back together.
Gillies is an interesting case. It was prettty clear that management was grooming him for the starter's role but he played his way out of it each time he was given the opportunity.
Rittich was always the plan B guy they didn't really want to rely on because he wasn't drafted by the team and carried the stigma of being an overage Euro player that would go home at the first sight of adversity. People were already packing his bags to Stockton after pre-season
This, if anything, is a case study in why goalies should never be considered top 5 prospects. And if they are, it tells you that your prospect pool is worse than you think it is.
I think they wanted a Left shot player to come up, since Fro is a left shot and 3 of the current bottom 6 wingers play RW (Czarnik, Neal, Hathaway).Didn't realize that Mangiapane was injured. Lomberg has 2 goals 4 assists in 18 games.
Seems to me that there are at least a couple of better options than Lomberg... Foo with 5 goals/ 5 assists, Gawdwin with 6 goals/ 2 assists.
Rychel isn't terrible as he is in 2nd place on roster in scoring with 9 goals and 6 assists.. but I'm not sure if he can be brought up and then sent down again without having to go through waivers. He's not waiver exempt. Quine by the way, is leading the team with 5 goals and 11 assists in 11 games but he also isn't waiver exempt.
Rittich was always the plan B guy they didn't really want to rely on because he wasn't drafted by the team and carried the stigma of being an overage Euro player that would go home at the first sight of adversity. People were already packing his bags to Stockton after pre-season
Rittich did all those things because he was playing better than Gillies. Much better.. But last year I still believe that Flames management thought Gillies was the better prospect out of the two. Rittich only got those opportunities because he out played Gilles. Gillies was still their guy.This sounds like a "misinformed fan projection", not a reflection of what management had planned. There were multiple situations where the org showed an inclination towards Rittich. Rittich was the one who was in net for every playoff win in 2017 ahl playoffs. Treliving had an interview where he talked about how it's often the unheralded goalies who end up becoming NHL starters, not the top prospects. Then last year Rittich was called up when Lack was sent down. And all last summer Treliving showed confidence that we had solid backup goaltending, when all the fans and media were in panic about it. He even said that Rittich would be better for it after the experience of being a temporary starter, in stark contrast to those who think Rittich dropped the ball for the rest of his career.
As for preseason, only fans put stock into it for goalies - organizations understand that the players out there are prone to huge mistakes, and that getting back to NHL speed also takes some time. The fact that Rittich was left behind to "start" more preseason games should have been taken as an indication that they wanted him getting more icetime in preseason to get his game back to normal, instead it was taken by some fans as "Gillies is the annointed backup".
The Flames would not have signed Rittich to an NHL deal they didn't think he could be a controbuting NHLer. Of course he had to prove himself, but he did long before mosf fans caught on who were still pumping Gillies.
Rittich did all those things because he was playing better than Gillies. Much better.. But last year I still believe that Flames management thought Gillies was the better prospect out of the two. Rittich only got those opportunities because he out played Gilles. Gillies was still their guy.