Rumor: Kucherov long term injury could give lightning the cap space they need

Drew311

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What's there to discuss? It's a surgery that typically takes 4-5months to recover from, the playoffs are in a little over 4 months, his projected return date would be either round 1 or 2 of the playoffs.

There could be a scenario that he’s good to go two weeks before the season ends. Freak athletes tend to recover quickly, especially with the medical advancements available to then. Let’s say the team is still over the cap at that point. Would be an interesting conversation/decision management would have. Just saying that him coming back for Game 1 would be interesting timing.
 

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There could be a scenario that he’s good to go two weeks before the season ends. Freak athletes tend to recover quickly, especially with the medical advancements available to then. Let’s say the team is still over the cap at that point. Would be an interesting conversation/decision management would have. Just saying that him coming back for Game 1 would be interesting timing.

4-5 months is FOR professional athletes, the recovery time for normal people is at least 6 months. Tampa has had 3 people with the exact same surgery in the last 3 years, none of them came back earlier than 4 months, including Brayden Point who is an absolute beast in training. I would say the chances are greater that he misses playoff games than coming back early.

Tyler Seguin is having the same surgey, he had it last month and will be out until at least March/April.

Not saying you but I find it hilarious how people think the timeline for this injury is made up out of the blue:
The initial prognosis was that Hemsky would be out 5-6 months, which meant he'd possibly miss the remainder of the season. After having surgery on his left hip following the 2014-15 season, he knew he had a difficult road ahead.
The surgery carries a four-month recovery, meaning Seguin could be out until the beginning of March should he go under the knife next week. The NHL is aiming to begin next season on Jan. 1, but have not announced a concrete start date or format for the season.
Krejci underwent successful surgery to repair an impingement in his right hip in June of 2009. He returned in time for the start of the 2009-10 season.
 
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No he wants a multi year deal and he isn’t defensively strong. He is still not signed for the much same reasons TB couldn’t easily move TJ
Dude...Hoffman has his warts but he is in a totally different tier than Tyler Johnson. Tampa couldn't move Tyler Johnson because he is terrible. Hoffman is one of the best PP snipers in the league.
 

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Dude...Hoffman has his warts but he is in a totally different tier than Tyler Johnson. Tampa couldn't move Tyler Johnson because he is terrible. Hoffman is one of the best PP snipers in the league.

That's not what he's saying at all........ he's saying teams can't move cap to fit Hoffman......
 

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I have no doubt the Bolts are playing the system to their advantage in this situation. Taking what should in all purposes be a catastrophe and making it a positive. That’s called quality management. No wonder they are favourites for the cup. Ain’t nothing wrong with using the system in place to your advantage folks.
 
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That's not what he's saying at all........ he's saying teams can't move cap to fit Hoffman......
I am glad somebody in here gets it LOL.

But since Waterbuf chose to go down that rabbit hole, he might want to at least check out the Corsi rating on both of these players before he declares undeniable viability for Hoffman over Johnson.

Sky04, I know you were aware I was comparing what these two players either want or or already getting is very similar money for two guys that are almost at exactly the same point in their careers.

Digging a little deeper Johnson has played 43 more games than Mike Hoffman. But given the fact that Johnson has played for a superior team versus the two, shall we say shitty ones for which Hoffman has played, to compare Johnson’s career +85 to Hoffman’s -19 is a meaningless exercise. It is in fact equally meaningless to compare Hoffman’s power-play proficiency when Johnson gets no power-play time.

It is however impossible to avoid looking at how little difference there is between these two where driving the play at equal strength is concerned. Hoffman scored 31 of his 59 points last year on the power-play. That is just over 52% of his point production. While getting more overall ice time compare that to Johnson who got only seven of his 31 points last year on the power-play. That is just over 22%.

People like Waterbuf (besides being a strawman) are driven much more by numbers than they are circumstance. If that were not the case, he would understand that Tyler Johnson’s play has not declined as much as his team’s need for him. He still does some things very well but he is up against other teammates at the same position who do more things well. This has made it very difficult for Cooper to know how to use Tyler Johnson. In turn Johnson has been somewhat derailed by the vast numbers of situations in which he has been used and with a large number of different line mates that has involved.
 

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