Gordian Knot
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How is this guy training off season? Just asking... 
Player Discussion: Kristian Vesalainen [Update: Signed ELC]
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Trilliann
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On his instagram there are pictures of him playing with a dog and hanging on the beach etc, so it's not looking very goodHow is this guy training off season? Just asking...
Tommigun
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Wouldn’t it make sense to come over no matter what to acclimatize himself to the small rink, and be on site for a call-up when injuries happen?
CorgisPer60
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Tweet here says Kristian Vesalainen was left off of the world Junior Summer showcase because Finland's coach didn't want him to have to make two extended trips to North America, knowing that he would be at an NHL training camp this fall. So, this is our first real tangible piece of evidence that an ELC is kind of eminent.
DudeWhereIsMakar
Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
I think he is ready to be a 2C because he would likely already have amazing chemistry with our top players.
Forgive me as I am not as versed in the business side of this - but someone said something interesting about protecting KV (and the Jets) from another particularly harsh expansion draft. Could holding Vesa back a year and signing Dano/ Petan be part of the Jets strategy here or am I out to lunch?
Haha how DARE he enjoy his summer after toiling all winter long. ALL HE SHOULD DO IS EAT, SKATE, AND WORK OUT DAMNIT!!!
puck stoppa
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His contract can slide. Can't play 10 or more games. I see him being like Niku last year but with more games played 8-9.
My personal opinion is that if he's good enough and ready then he sticks or is recalled during latter half of season. I like him, I think he's ready, but he will play AHL imo cause of expansion and waivers. Worked out okay for Rantanen playing one year in AHL.
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Not sure if you actually wanted to know, or made a joke about the ridiculous discussions on Laine's training, but he is training with ex nba physique coach. The article says that Kristian went to him last summer to look for body control and explosiveness.How is this guy training off season? Just asking...
I have a question... given our coach's penchant for switching sides for wingers, where do people think that KV would wind up on the Jets? LW or RW?
That would make a difference on whether we have room for him or not.
That would make a difference on whether we have room for him or not.
Seattle's trying to be ready to start play in October 2020, but if that gets pushed back a year, then Vesalainen could potentially require protection. If Seattle is awarded a team to start in 2020, then Vesalainen wouldn't need protection (he'd be in the same situation as Ehlers was for the Vegas draft having just completed his 2nd pro year in North America).
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I don't think the Jets will consider the possible expansion until it's set in stone. The Cup window is wide open for the Jets and every season counts. Mgmt should be worrying about icing the best possible team now while everyone is under contract and key pieces like Wheeler and Buff are still in their primes.
If Vesa is good enough, and I think he is, then he'll probably be in the top 9 this coming season.
I don't think the Jets will consider the possible expansion until it's set in stone. The Cup window is wide open for the Jets and every season counts. Mgmt should be worrying about icing the best possible team now while everyone is under contract and key pieces like Wheeler and Buff are still in their primes.
If Vesa is good enough, and I think he is, then he'll probably be in the top 9 this coming season.
Arthur Fonzarelli
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Vesalainen isn't a centre.
Perhaps if you think even harder he'll become one...
Arthur Fonzarelli
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I doubt his handedness will play a role with him making the Jets.
What will play a role is the fact there's no space for him on the roster. If you can count to 13 you have your answer.
It's pretty incredible to look at someone with his talent and realize that he probably can't crack the roster. It's a nice problem to have! With Armia gone though, there is that spot on the 'Third' line.
Arthur Fonzarelli
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I agree, it's a great situation to be in!
A roster player became expendable due to this years waiver issues. With Armia now traded there's no sense in recreating that issue.
While it's certainly possible K-Ves cracks the line-up, he would have to have an incredible camp which places him significantly ahead of Petan & Dano.
Isn't the roster is stronger by having the forward depth that we have? Isn't allowing his contract to slide a positive thing for a team up against the cap? Aren't we a draft & develop team? Shouldn't we allow him time to develop? Should we allow our forward depth to be lost to waivers?
Let K-Ves adapt to the smaller ice surface in the AHL. If he's truly ready, the issue can be revisited then with Petan or Dano traded, rather than let go for nothing.
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I cannot for the life of me see "any value" in a player like Dano -- if I owned the team, he would have been traded or let go a long time ago. He does nothing when he's on the ice, except skate around and bump into people. Petan on the other hand, has a lot of skill--he's a keeper, and his stats in the AHL prove he can score and play with the pros. I think and hope he cracks the lineup-- he has some good upside. It's possible he won't make the NHL- but I think he will--and he'll do well somewhere, and I hope it's with the Jets.
DudeWhereIsMakar
Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
Vesalainen isn't a centre.
Perhaps if you think even harder he'll become one...
I was talking about Roslovic... as you can tell from the quote above.
I completely agree with all of the above. To be honest, I don't hold out much hope for Petan and Dana. As always I hope to be wrong
Buddy, you pretty much wrapped up my thoughts about those players. I’m really surprised to see that some people seem to like Dano so much. When I have seen him play, I have seen practically nothing too useful in him. Works hard, but that’s about it. He clearly lacks in hockey IQ and his hands and passing skills are average, if even that. Maybe he can carve still an NHL career somewhere else, but I wouldn’t really make a bet for it. Ain’t gonna anyway happen in Winnipeg for sure. I can’t see a chance that Vesalainen isn’t already a better player than him.
Petan is maybe another story, as he is a skilled guy with pretty nice hockey IQ, and especially his vision and passing skills seem to be pretty darn good. Just a pity that he is a bit smallish and especially physically that weak that he will still have some difficulties in making it in the NHL. This especially because with his kind of weaknesses he would at least need to be a magnificent and fast skater, but unfortunately he isn’t that. Hopefully he has been able to develop still well this off-season and could after all make the team.
Somehow I’m a bit hoping for Petan to maybe get a chance to play with Laine in the same line with him. Maybe even a line with Petan-Scheifele-Laine could work really nicely. But if he hasn’t been able to clearly become already stronger and more explosive, then I could see maybe Vesalainen being already more useful than even him.
I’m a bit afraid still that Petan will not make his NHL career in Winnipeg, but probably in a clearly weaker team somewhere else. I like him though, so I’m hoping for the best for him wherever he will be playing.
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Vesalainen isn't a centre.
Perhaps if you think even harder he'll become one...
Perhaps you should try reading/comprehending harder.
Arthur Fonzarelli
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Makes a good point for us to stay on topic with our discussions & if not to avoid using pronouns when not posting a direct reply & to make a habit of quoting the post you are responding to. In this case you even replied directly & I still missed it.
I recently has a message misconstrued for using a pronoun in reference to a player that wasn't the topic of the OP.
Anyways...sorry about that! I can admit when I'm wrrrrr....wrr.......wr....
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