Kotkaniemi V/S Svechnikov

[xFRaNK]

I know it's still REALLY early, but I want to know which one would you draft at 2nd overall. Before the draft, the unanimous choice was Svechnikov, seems like it aint a no brainer anymore since Kotkaniemi is playing like a stud.

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[BM14]

E5

 

[Jormungandr]

V/S?

 

[FrankMTL]

Why is this in the Trade Rumours and Free Agent Forum?

 

[Nedarb]

Tkachuk

 

[TT1]

?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

is this a trade proposal?

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Svechnikov and im a habs fan!

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

Kotka ainec for me

 

[Legend123]

Kotkaniemi. I've never been this impressed with an 18 yo. Svech is almost half a year older. (4-5 months iirc)

 

[Frank Drebin]

I don't see habs, canes or sens fans changing their mind on this one right now.

All looking like good picks, I'm happy with the center.

 

[Rico Suave]

Im sure all 3 teams are happy with their picks,has a habs fan im really happy with KK,might finally have our #1 center in a couple years.Kid is amazing and still so young i remember hearing he was much younger then all the others?

 

[KevSkillz4]

Kotkaniemi is Barkov 2.0. So him.

 

[Addison Rae]

Svech is scoring at pretty much the same rate as Kotka, it’s hilarious seeing how much people can flip flop based on such a small size of pretty much identical play.

 

[Gecklund]

I don't really think you can go wrong with any. It really just depends on what you're looking for. Like for the Sharks if they were picking number 2 for whatever reason, I would take Svechnikov. If I were the Canes, I'd still take Svechnikov. If I were the Habs, I would probably take Kotkaniemi. It really just depends on what your team needed.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Svech is scoring at pretty much the same rate as Kotka, it’s hilarious seeing how much people can flip flop based on such a small size of pretty much identical play.

One's a winger, the other's a center. Kotka wins.

 

[Addison Rae]

One's a winger, the other's a center. Kotka wins.

They’re not equal players though.

Just because they’ve had equal seasons doesn’t make them equal players.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

They’re not equal players though.

Just because they’ve had equal seasons doesn’t make them equal players.

Regardless of that, Kotka is already great defensively at 18, full of skill, and is a center. Centers are always worth more than wingers, unless you're talking about Ovechkin/Kane here, which Svechnikov ain't.

 

[ESH]

Kotkaniemi. I've never been this impressed with an 18 yo. Svech is almost half a year older. (4-5 months iirc)

He’s about 3.5 months older, which really doesn’t make a difference at all.

 

[Legend123]

He’s about 3.5 months older, which really doesn’t make a difference at all.

Still , its a big enough difference development wise. 3 months can be a lot. For instance, 3 months of AHL hockey before making it to the NHL can be very helpful.

 

[ESH]

Still , its a big enough difference development wise. 3 months can be a lot. For instance, 3 months of AHL hockey before making it to the NHL can be very helpful.

Okay but Svechnikov didn’t get 3 months of AHL time. When do you think Svechnikov used this 3 month “advantage”?

 

[TeddyBare]

He’s about 3.5 months older, which really doesn’t make a difference at all.

It's crazy how much Kotkaniemi being 18 is brought up in all comparisons with him.

 

[Legend123]

Okay but Svechnikov didn’t get 3 months of AHL time. When do you think Svechnikov used this 3 month “advantage”?

Im not saying he did. Just it can make a difference. And maybe not AHL time but Svech has played 2 years in NA hockey. KK none before this season. The transition for KK to NA hockey, the NHL no less, to C, a much tougher position than the wing has been easily much more impressive than Svech's transition to the NHL. No doubt about that. I cant see anyone arguing regarding that.
Overall, I prefer KK moving forward. I guess we'll see.

 

[Addison Rae]

Regardless of that, Kotka is already great defensively at 18, full of skill, and is a center. Centers are always worth more than wingers, unless you're talking about Ovechkin/Kane here, which Svechnikov ain't.

Centres all always worth more than wingers?

Ugh absolutely not.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Svech is scoring at pretty much the same rate as Kotka, it’s hilarious seeing how much people can flip flop based on such a small size of pretty much identical play.

The difference is that Kotkaniemi has vastly exceeded the expectations, whereas Svechnikov has disappointed.