Maybe you need to go, it was neale who said it.albertGQ said:At least you saw right (so did I). Bob "old" Cole thought it was Smyth that left for the dressing room even though the player that left was blatantly wearing a RED FRICKEN JERSEY!!!
Cole has got to go!!!
he's not blacklisted, he's just not good enough.Metallian said:is it safe to say Zherdev is blacklisted?
Bonzi said:he's not blacklisted, he's just not good enough.
Metallian said:...you're kidding right?
Slitty said:We already have one Afinogenov on the team, and this one has the experience of scoring the only goal against the Czechs in 2002 and scoring some clutch goals for Russia in 2005. Sorry, Zherdev is not yet a great enough offensive threat to warrant taking him as a go-to offensive guy who will not be relied upon to play defense. Admit it, he is not quite Ovechkin yet.
blamebettman said:Korolyuk was great killing penalties and just being a solid two way forward, I hope he can play.
Metallian said:But skill-wise he's better than half the players on the roster
definately better than: Teretukhin, Nep, Kharitonov, Afinogenov, Zhamnov, Frolov for starters
Slitty said:However: Morozov, Zvinovjev, Mozyakin, Antipov, But, Kurdometov, Chistov, Grigorenko (and possibly Semin or Zaripov) are some RSL names I presonally would consider ahead of Napryiev. Granted, not many of these guys are solid defensive forwards which our Lokomotiv friend in question supposedly is.
Den said:Ehhh. Ahhh. Spoken like a true expert: Zherdev better than two centers, one of whom you can't spell correctly and the other is not on the team. Better then three more guys who have proved themselves time and again and scored clutch goals (Max), important goals (Kharitonov) and simply scored (Frolov). Yep, we should have taken him over Turapupkin.
But in fact I think he is blacklisted with this coaching staff.
Metallian said:Yes, he's not a defensive specialist and yes, he's not Ovechkin
But skill-wise he's better than half the players on the roster
definately better than: Teretukhin, Nep, Kharitonov, Afinogenov, Zhamnov, Frolov for starters
Metallian said:frolov = zherdev is on a similar level as frolov, and i'm suprised he wasnt called in once frolov was injured....which leads me to more baffling as to why Tara/Nep have been called and still no Zherdev
Metallian said:which leads me to more baffling as to why Tara/Nep have been called and still no Zherdev
Slitty said:Its not yet his time, he should get play in the World Championships given how well Columbus is doing, and show the World what he is made of in 2010.
Slitty said:Agreed. However, there are only so many skilled purely offensive guys we can have on the team. Someone has to play defense.... Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, and to a lesser extent guys like Kovalev dont. Zherdev isn't yet good enough to take the roster spot of one of those purely offensive guys.
Slitty said:-Taratukhin made the roster because a center was needed, and he is a hardworking defensive forward, something that was needed for the 4th line. Zherdev is neither a center nor a defensive specialist. Brylin or Fedorov may have been better choices, but for one reason or another, they arent in Turin.
Slitty said:-Nep I don't know about much. Supposedly he was selected for 4th line duty, something the RSL alternatives I mentioned weren't as suitable for. Nep, like Taratukhin is a replacement, and as I reasoned above, it would be illogical to fly an NHLer replacement into Turin, especially not Zherdev for 4th line duty.
Slitty said:-Kharitonov has had excellent combination plays with Sushinsky and Malkin. Has been excellent in his playmaking role, and pulled a sick move against Canada to split the defence and break in alone on Brodeur. He is also no slouch on defence, and unlike Zherdev, is Sushinsky's and Malkin's linemate for the better portion of the year. (Dynamo and team Russia)
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I agree'd with Shish being on the team, but I still say that Zherdev with the two of them would have been better - season chemistry or not. I have so far been unimpressed with Khari
Slitty said:-Afinogenov I'm going to argue is more skilled than Zherdev. Have you seen some of the stuff Afinogenov can do... calling him not as skilled as someone is a sin unless you are talking about Datsyuk or something. He has performed similarly to Zherdev in the NHL this year, but the above mentioned experience makes the difference.
-Zhamnov, despite having a bad season and being injured in Boston is no slouch in terms of skill. He is not the Zhamnov of 1993, but he is still okay and brings vetran experience, leadership, and 3 Olympic games under his belt to the team. He was also buddies with Pavel Bure and a center, something which Russia needed and Zherdev is not. Thus he made the team.
Afinogenov is a tease. He is in no way as skilled as Nik. Not even close. Yes, he pulled off some nice dekes when he was younger and still can from time to time, but for gods sake he cant finish at a high level. He's on dimensional and isn't even dominant in his one dimension.
Zhamnov was good years ago, not anymore. He was Russia's "Kris Draper" I guess...
Frolov is hardly outperforming Zherdev offensively though. Nik had a slow start but for the last while has really turned it on while Alex is cooling off.
Slitty said:I know Zherdev is a fellow xaxol, but c'mon Metalian, he was behind at least Morozov on the right wing depth chart after those who made the team... and knowing Krikunov, probably some guy like Grigorenko as well. Its not yet his time, he should get play in the World Championships given how well Columbus is doing, and show the World what he is made of in 2010.
Xaxol? I dont know what that is but it sounds like *******..
He shouldnt be behind Morozov or Grigorenko though. To say that is a joke. Give me a break
Metallian said:funniest thing i've EVER read on these boards