Konecny has a similar skill set to Gagne. When Simmer is traded put TK in his place on PP1.

[FlyersfanTK11]

TK would do wonderful in front of the net. He has the hand-eye and quickness to produce there.

He needs to improve his hockey IQ. Once he does he will be an extremely dangerous. His TOs limit his opportunities.

I would love to hear what you think of TK either on this issue or in general.

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[Embiid]

Damn ....longest thread title I have ever seen..lol.

 

[CapnZin]

Needs more poise on and with the puck. That’s the distinguishing difference in what’s separating him from becoming a great player. Plus, when he’s playing his agitative style, the hockey world works for him. Idk...

 

[Rebels57]

If Brendan Gallagher can be effective in front of the net, so can TK.

 

[Magua]

Gallagher plays net front. It can be done. He's shown skill in tips, and he's a tough SOB. We just have a lot of net front players. Or in the bumper slot role, though Lindblom is there now. Half wall QB hasn't worked so well with his decision making, even if he has the speed/skill. Frost needs a PP spot next season too on that wall. Especially if they insist on having Provorov on the unit or Sanheim chaperoned by Provorov, spots get limited, and TK hasn't really fit anywhere cleanly yet.

 

[Johnk0728]

Just be patient with TK....his game and decisions will get better with experience.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Not sure I agree with the Gagne comparison but PP1 time is fine with me.

 

[Laveuglette]

Gagné was much better (no knock on Konecny, it's just a fact), and had a different style.

 

[tictactoe]

Gagne as the top two way player? ha ha.. Not even close.

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

Needs more poise on and with the puck. That’s the distinguishing difference in what’s separating him from becoming a great player. Plus, when he’s playing his agitative style, the hockey world works for him. Idk...

What do you mean by poise?

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

Just be patient with TK....his game and decisions will get better with experience.

Hall ya brother!

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

Gagné was much better (no knock on Konecny, it's just a fact), and had a different style.

What are both players styles iyo?

 

[CapnZin]

What do you mean by poise?

More or less, balance and fluidity. In today’s game there were a lot of moments where he tried to beat a defender, but he ended up beating himself. While on a breakaway, it’s a clear shooting lane with no passing lane available, yet TK still decides to pass. Of course he isn’t the only one, but sometimes, in areas of pressure, he looks nervous with the puck. To make it more clear, he needs a play to be available... it looks like he has trouble making something out of nothing.

Again, as a poster stated above, he’s young and developing. During his aggressive style last year, a lot of the proponents of his game worked out. This year he’s become more finesse and less workhorse. If he can control the puck like some of his line mates, you’ll be looking at one of the better players on the flyers and in the league.

 

[eramosat]

TK is learning a ton about what he can and cannot do in the NHL.

Just get him a coach to push him, and teammates, in a good direction. Lots of potential here.

 

[Hexxxy]

Gagne >>>>> TK

And different

 

[deadhead]

TK lacks the innate "shake and bake" of the top smurfs, just look at Giroux slam on the brakes and defenders fly by him.
TK tends to play at one speed though he's slowly improving, but doesn't know how to set up opposing players.

Good example, look at Patrick skating today, best I've seen him and elite playmaking level where he was just deking guys out of their jocks.
Sanheim does some of the same things and they're both much bigger than TK.
TK simply can't do that, he relies on his burst/speed to beat guys, but if they take good angles he's often stymied.

TK's other problem is his shooting, he doesn't have the arrogance of top shooters, he's too inconsistent and often tries to shoot too hard instead of just firing quickly and accurately, that can probably be improved but some is also innate.

TK is a tough SOB, he's got good hands, made a great play on his goal, when he's confident has a good wrist shot, and should be a 30 goal scorer when he grows up given the quality of centers he'll play with (in two years, will it matter whether it's Couts, Patrick or Frost?). He has great straight line speed, if he can just develop better lateral agility at high speed he could blow by a lot of defenders (right now he gets stripped at the blue line or squeezed into the boards too often). And if he learns how to gear down, suck defenders into slowing down with him, then use his burst to catch them offbalance, he might be really dangerous.

Focus is his other issue, he's improved but still at times seems to be "lost in space."

 

[Rich Nixon]

Gagne and Konecny aren't really similar at all.

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Wish that TK could become a Verbeek or Ciccarelli type player. I wish I could win the lottery too..

 

[flyguy]

I don't recall Gagne really playing the net front presence on the PP a ton. That was LeClair, Knuble, or Hartsy for the majority of Simon's tenure with the team.

In the current scheme, a player like Gagne would either be the high slot guy (Couts/Simmonds current role), or the secondary sidewall (Voracek). Now that I think of it, I do recall Simon playing the point some in a 4 forward set up back in the day.

 

[BritainStix]

Gagne was one of the best two way wingers in his entire era and boy could he fly.

Something something purest shooter something something......

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

More or less, balance and fluidity. In today’s game there were a lot of moments where he tried to beat a defender, but he ended up beating himself. While on a breakaway, it’s a clear shooting lane with no passing lane available, yet TK still decides to pass. Of course he isn’t the only one, but sometimes, in areas of pressure, he looks nervous with the puck. To make it more clear, he needs a play to be available... it looks like he has trouble making something out of nothing.

Again, as a poster stated above, he’s young and developing. During his aggressive style last year, a lot of the proponents of his game worked out. This year he’s become more finesse and less workhorse. If he can control the puck like some of his line mates, you’ll be looking at one of the better players on the flyers and in the league.

Yes I agree. I think we all have noticed that and its a really good point.

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

Gagne >>>>> TK

And different

How are they different?

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

TK lacks the innate "shake and bake" of the top smurfs, just look at Giroux slam on the brakes and defenders fly by him.
TK tends to play at one speed though he's slowly improving, but doesn't know how to set up opposing players.

Good example, look at Patrick skating today, best I've seen him and elite playmaking level where he was just deking guys out of their jocks.
Sanheim does some of the same things and they're both much bigger than TK.
TK simply can't do that, he relies on his burst/speed to beat guys, but if they take good angles he's often stymied.

TK's other problem is his shooting, he doesn't have the arrogance of top shooters, he's too inconsistent and often tries to shoot too hard instead of just firing quickly and accurately, that can probably be improved but some is also innate.

TK is a tough SOB, he's got good hands, made a great play on his goal, when he's confident has a good wrist shot, and should be a 30 goal scorer when he grows up given the quality of centers he'll play with (in two years, will it matter whether it's Couts, Patrick or Frost?). He has great straight line speed, if he can just develop better lateral agility at high speed he could blow by a lot of defenders (right now he gets stripped at the blue line or squeezed into the boards too often). And if he learns how to gear down, suck defenders into slowing down with him, then use his burst to catch them offbalance, he might be really dangerous.

Focus is his other issue, he's improved but still at times seems to be "lost in space."

Id also like to see he deke more. Its not that he cannot do it but like you said he is focused on striaght away speed and just blowing by people.

 

[FlyersfanTK11]

Gagne and Konecny aren't really similar at all.

You are wrong. Both were/are one of the fastest skaters on the ice when they step on the ice. They both like being in front of the net. Great hand-eye.

 

[mja]

I realize that I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but stylistically, Gagne & TK aren't all that similar.