Prospect Info: Kirill Kaprizov lll

[Dickie Dunn]

Might be a well reasoned snub but still a snub. Like AKL says, it would effectively mean we don’t see him until the 2021-22 season. At the earliest realistically as we’ve already seen the hurdles involved with these May signings.

 

[MuckOG]

Is it confirmed that the KHL will start their regular season on time?

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Is it confirmed that the KHL will start their regular season on time?

They've announced they "plan to" start September 2. The virus might dictate otherwise.

 

[grN1g]

If anyone can dig it up at some point would love to know if he has an out clause?

 

[Wasted Talent]

If anyone can dig it up at some point would love to know if he has an out clause?

KHL doesn't do out clauses

 

[Nharris31]

 

[MuckOG]

It's encouraging that the NHLPA is pushing back on this. Gives us a ray of hope, at least.

 

[ThatGuy22]

KHL doesn't do out clauses

You know, except for the last time when the NHL wasn't playing Sept-Dec and they did....

 

[P10p]

This is great news for the Wild.

 

[Dee Oh Cee]

The NHL's explanation just makes zero sense when compared to what they've allowed in the past. If they just went with the 'making things more complicated than they need to be' reasoning it would at least make more sense than the hilariously stupid 'ringer' comment. As Russo has mentioned it was freaking last year when the Avs were able to add Makar to their playoff team. Leave it up to the NHL to find ways to avoid letting young potential stars play in the league when it's likely that more eyes than usual will be on the product.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Does Kaprizov have an agent? Last I heard, he was still in the investigating part of that.

Also Romanov was 'signed', just not filed. Wonder if that'll make any distinction.

 

[2Pair]

If anyone can dig it up at some point would love to know if he has an out clause?

If who has an out clause?

 

[Nharris31]

Does Kaprizov have an agent? Last I heard, he was still in the investigating part of that.

Also Romanov was 'signed', just not filed. Wonder if that'll make any distinction.

Yes he does

 

[thestonedkoala]

Yes he does

Must have missed that, who is his agent? Please, please, PLEASE not Allan Walsh.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

The NHL's explanation just makes zero sense when compared to what they've allowed in the past. If they just went with the 'making things more complicated than they need to be' reasoning it would at least make more sense than the hilariously stupid 'ringer' comment. As Russo has mentioned it was freaking last year when the Avs were able to add Makar to their playoff team. Leave it up to the NHL to find ways to avoid letting young potential stars play in the league when it's likely that more eyes than usual will be on the product.

I mean, I get the frustration. But if they don't sign Makar they technically risk him becoming a free agent. There's a real time limit. Kaprizov's rights will still be around for at least three more years (not to mention they could have tried to sign him, you know, four years ago). Second, Makar was an amateur athlete, not a pro who just played an entire professional season. There's a reason an NHL team can't sign a guy from a different NHL team after his team gets eliminated, right? Third, there's a global pandemic that has upended things in sports, travel, employment and life. It's simply not business as usual right now. Russo is being a dingbat here. The NHLPA simply shouldn't be advocating for a non-member to take a job from a member, especially now. And all this talk of the league screwing the Wild is petulance.

 

[Nharris31]

Must have missed that, who is his agent? Please, please, PLEASE not Allan Walsh.

Idk only Russo, Kirill his agent and probably Guerin know

 

[AKL]

I mean, I get the frustration. But if they don't sign Makar they technically risk him becoming a free agent. There's a real time limit. Kaprizov's rights will still be around for at least three more years (not to mention they could have tried to sign him, you know, four years ago). Second, Makar was an amateur athlete, not a pro who just played an entire professional season. There's a reason an NHL team can't sign a guy from a different NHL team after his team gets eliminated, right? Third, there's a global pandemic that has upended things in sports, travel, employment and life. It's simply not business as usual right now. Russo is being a dingbat here. The NHLPA simply shouldn't be advocating for a non-member to take a job from a member, especially now. And all this talk of the league screwing the Wild is petulance.

None of this hits.

Makar had two more years before he could walk.

The league a prospect comes from doesn't matter.

An NHL team signing a pending UFA from an eliminated team is not even remotely comparable.

Using the pandemic as a scapegoat for doing whatever you want with no reason is petulance.

I'm fine if they're saying it's on pause until they figure out how they're going to proceed with the season. I'm fine with them looking at it later, and if they come up with a valid reason to pause that rule for this season, not allowing any of the players to play. The issue is that, so far, they've come out and said, "yeah we're not doing that anymore because reasons," and that's not acceptable.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Idk only Russo, Kirill his agent and probably Guerin know

Must have signed in the past week or so, because I found this article:

Guerin remains optimistic regarding Kaprizov contract

Kaprizov has also been without an agent, but that holdup appears to have an end in sight and is no longer believed to be an issue.

Sounds like he has an agent in mind and is close to signing?

 

[Wasted Talent]

Must have signed in the past week or so, because I found this article:

Guerin remains optimistic regarding Kaprizov contract



Sounds like he has an agent in mind and is close to signing?

In the comment section of "What's up with Kirill Kaprizov?" article, Russo said:

 

[Saga of the Elk]

None of this hits.

Makar had two more years before he could walk.

The league a prospect comes from doesn't matter.

An NHL team signing a pending UFA from an eliminated team is not even remotely comparable.

Using the pandemic as a scapegoat for doing whatever you want with no reason is petulance.

I'm fine if they're saying it's on pause until they figure out how they're going to proceed with the season. I'm fine with them looking at it later, and if they come up with a valid reason to pause that rule for this season, not allowing any of the players to play. The issue is that, so far, they've come out and said, "yeah we're not doing that anymore because reasons," and that's not acceptable.

Would it shock me for the league to change course on this? Especially when there's some schedule clarity. Not at all. But it's certainly not all about "the league doesn't like the Wild" which I keep seeing people say. No team gets to sign new contracts right now. And the reason is a disease that killed 100,000 Americans in three months, not some caprice.

The basic principle of sports is you have your team, maybe you make a couple changes at the trade deadline. If Kaprizov were under contract and on loan, it would be different. I have no problem with the league's freeze here. Give Gerry and Anas a chance first.

 

[thestonedkoala]

In the comment section of "What's up with Kirill Kaprizov?" article, Russo said:

Lines up with the article saying that the issue with his agent is getting fixed.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Would it shock me for the league to change course on this? Especially when there's some schedule clarity. Not at all. But it's certainly not all about "the league doesn't like the Wild" which I keep seeing people say. No team gets to sign new contracts right now. And the reason is a disease that killed 100,000 Americans in three months, not some caprice.

The basic principle of sports is you have your team, maybe you make a couple changes at the trade deadline. If Kaprizov were under contract and on loan, it would be different. I have no problem with the league's freeze here. Give Gerry and Anas a chance first.

Every single year there are players that sign with like 3 games remaining or even zero games remaining and play in the NHL playoffs. Every year.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Every single year there are players that sign with like 3 games remaining or even zero games remaining and play in the NHL playoffs. Every year.

And if 100,000 people hadn't died from Covid-19 Kaprizov might have been another one. As it is, he won't be. And I've given several reasons besides that why the league has some justification. By the way, I'm not a Bill Daly burner account.

I mean the first two iterations of this thread were complaining about why Chuck Fletcher waited until 2018 to visit Kaprizov in Russia. Why after spending a pick on the first overall KHL pick, he didn't also tap someone with Russian knowledge to help the relationship in case being the first overall pick in the draft of the world's second best league ALSO meant he was good at hockey. Instead we get so much confusion and frustration.

Regardless, I do think the situation of adding a pro is different from adding a junior-level player or a college player. And the KHL and NHL should figure out a more cooperative stance on development, loans, honoring contracts and overall commitment to doing what's best for the sport's sustainability and excellence.

 

[ThatGuy22]

And if 100,000 people hadn't died from Covid-19 Kaprizov might have been another one. As it is, he won't be. And I've given several reasons besides that why the league has some justification. By the way, I'm not a Bill Daly burner account.

I mean the first two iterations of this thread were complaining about why Chuck Fletcher waited until 2018 to visit Kaprizov in Russia. Why after spending a pick on the first overall KHL pick, he didn't also tap someone with Russian knowledge to help the relationship in case being the first overall pick in the draft of the world's second best league ALSO meant he was good at hockey. Instead we get so much confusion and frustration.

Regardless, I do think the situation of adding a pro is different from adding a junior-level player or a college player. And the KHL and NHL should figure out a more cooperative stance on development, loans, honoring contracts and overall commitment to doing what's best for the sport's sustainability and excellence.

It wasn't when it was Radulov and Sobotka.

 

[2Pair]

And if 100,000 people hadn't died from Covid-19 Kaprizov might have been another one. As it is, he won't be. And I've given several reasons besides that why the league has some justification. By the way, I'm not a Bill Daly burner account.

I mean the first two iterations of this thread were complaining about why Chuck Fletcher waited until 2018 to visit Kaprizov in Russia. Why after spending a pick on the first overall KHL pick, he didn't also tap someone with Russian knowledge to help the relationship in case being the first overall pick in the draft of the world's second best league ALSO meant he was good at hockey. Instead we get so much confusion and frustration.

Regardless, I do think the situation of adding a pro is different from adding a junior-level player or a college player. And the KHL and NHL should figure out a more cooperative stance on development, loans, honoring contracts and overall commitment to doing what's best for the sport's sustainability and excellence.

You haven't given one single legitimate justification as to why that rule should change for this season.