Kirby Dach Appreciation Thread

[Naster Okan]

After his stellar playoff performance, do you think people have taken notice? The one knock I can think of that everyone else is aware of is he missed grade A shot opportunities. We don’t have to talk about how excellent he was, we all saw. I believe this kid can become must see TV the way he plays, both sides of the ice.

 

[GaryU]

After his stellar playoff performance, do you think people have taken notice? The one knock I can think of that everyone else is aware of is he missed grade A shot opportunities. We don’t have to talk about how excellent he was, we all saw. I believe this kid can become must see TV the way he plays, both sides of the ice.

His confidence level was noticeably higher in the 'playoffs'.

 

[CanadianHawks]

After watching him in the POs he is gonna be one of the top breakout candidates next year. The guy is almost always gonna be playing with a 30-40 goal scorer in Kane, Kubalik or Cat. With his skills it's pretty easy to see him breaking 60 plus points next year with first PP time.

 

[BobbyJet]

After watching him in the POs he is gonna be one of the top breakout candidates next year. The guy is almost always gonna be playing with a 30-40 goal scorer in Kane, Kubalik or Cat. With his skills it's pretty easy to see him breaking 60 plus points next year with first PP time.

I still say Kirby Dach reminds me of Joe Thornton...... though I'm hoping he will soon be considered more as a shoot-first guy. Goalies need to be second-guessing a shooter - you can bet that they're well aware that Dach's tendency is to be a pass-first guy.

 

[RayP]

I still say Kirby Dach reminds me of Joe Thornton...... though I'm hoping he will soon be considered more as a shoot-first guy. Goalies need to be second-guessing a shooter - you can bet that they're well aware that Dach's tendency is to be a pass-first guy.

I see the play making and vision of Thornton mixed the tenacity and grittiness of Getzlaf, who is obviously quite the playmaker himself.

 

[BobbyJet]

When Joe Thornton was in his offensive hey-day with SJ, he was awesome. I can remember Don Cherry hailing Joe as the best player in the NHL at that time and he could have been right.
My only concern with Dach is his health. He reminds me a lot of Roenick in that he plays with reckless abandon - gotta be concerned about his knees.

 

[Dr Salt]

I'm glad I was wrong that we reached. I knew we were swinging for the fences but its been nice so far.

 

[BobbyJet]

 

[Teemu]

Gonna look good next to Lafreniere

 

[G0AT]

What do you guys think his point total will be next year. I'm going with low 50's, 20 goals maybe?

 

[bwana63]

What do you guys think his point total will be next year. I'm going with low 50's, 20 goals maybe?

Given that it'll be a ~48 game season (hopefully), that sounds about right.

Dach should keep a copy of Pronman's U23 rankings with him at all times.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What do you guys think his point total will be next year. I'm going with low 50's, 20 goals maybe?

haha.

in a 42 game season I'd put him with about 10-12 goals and 30-35 pts.

30 pts would be a 58 pt pace and 10 goals would be a 19 goal pace over 82.

In a 48 game season I'd put him with 12-14 goals and 35-40 pts.

12 goals would be 21 goals over 82. 35 pts would be 60 pts over 82.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Given that it'll be a ~48 game season (hopefully), that sounds about right.

Dach should keep a copy of Pronman's U23 rankings with him at all times.

Especially given we’ll see the DeBrincat-Dach first line that gets ~20 total minutes a game

 

[bwana63]

Especially given we’ll see the DeBrincat-Dach first line that gets ~20 total minutes a game

By all means, Dach should be given free rein to wreak havoc. You let your stallion run. And I fully believe JC will. As long as Dach's playing well, he'll be playing a lot. Watching him blossom is going to be a treat.

Really want him working on his shot and not deferring as much.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Realistically it’d be really nice if he finished with a ~25 gpg pace and 60ish ppg pace.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Realistically it’d be really nice if he finished with a ~25 gpg pace and 60ish ppg pace.

You mean 25 G/82 and 60 P/82

25 goals and 60 points per game?????

Sorry not picking on you I just don't think you realized what you typed. I almost ruined my computer.

 

[BobbyJet]

What do you guys think his point total will be next year. I'm going with low 50's, 20 goals maybe?

I would say his rookie season was a resounding success, and those numbers sound like a good and reasonable bar for Dach in his sophomore season. But it's much more than numbers with this guy, a stud with unlimited potential. If I was JC I'd turn him loose and let him play his own game with no limitations. His instincts to play both ends of the ice are obvious and pretty rare.

 

[bwana63]

But it's much more than numbers with this guy, a stud with unlimited potential. If I was JC I'd turn him loose and let him play his own game with no limitations. His instincts to play both ends of the ice are obvious and pretty rare.

This. Pronman is nuts.

 

[x Tame Impala]

You mean 25 G/82 and 60 P/82

25 goals and 60 points per game?????

Sorry not picking on you I just don't think you realized what you typed. I almost ruined my computer.

 

[x Tame Impala]

This. Pronman is nuts.

He recently came out with a list of top 25 players under 23 years old or something like that and it was atrocious. Isn’t Pronman the guy who doesn’t like Boqvist or Mitchell too?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

He recently came out with a list of top 25 players under 23 years old or something like that and it was atrocious. Isn’t Pronman the guy who doesn’t like Boqvist or Mitchell too?

He doesn't like either guy that much, to be honest. He realizes that Boqvist is a good prospect but he ranked him 55th overall on the U23 which is um....kinda low. In his opinion Boqvist has borderline top pair potential, but more likely a 2nd pairing D. He thinks that Mitchell is a borderline 2nd pairing D.

He had Alex Nylander and Puljujarvi higher than Mitchell. I still think Nylander can become something, but the odds are pretty low at this point, and this is coming from someone who didn't hate that deal.

 

[Dr Salt]

He's going to destroy world juniors. Point per game in the NHL playoffs translating to that

 

[Brightwing]

World Juniors are in Alberta. He literally doesn't even have to get on a plane to go.

 

[Brightwing]

This. Pronman is nuts.

If Pronman really was that good at evaluating young talent he would be a scout. I read him kinda to see who is on the radar but I don't even know if he attends games in person. For the number of players he ranks, I really can't imagine he watches that much tape per player.

I think, by contrast, a guy like Bob MacKenzie does his rankings based on talking to sources so his rankings are more about what players are generating interest.

 

[x Tame Impala]

If Pronman really was that good at evaluating young talent he would be a scout. I read him kinda to see who is on the radar but I don't even know if he attends games in person. For the number of players he ranks, I really can't imagine he watches that much tape per player.

I think, by contrast, a guy like Bob MacKenzie does his rankings based on talking to sources so his rankings are more about what players are generating interest.

Yeah I guess I never really thought about it but how do guys like Button, Mackenzie, the NHL Network guys, TSN guys, etc...determine their lists? Are they out there on the road even a little bit? Tough to imagine they’re seeing watching NHL and most CHL games over a season. Maybe they are, who knows. Do they have a bunch of scout-friends that they trust who send in their lists?

If you’re not watching these kids regularly how can you formulate a detailed opinion about them? Just look at HF Boards on the main thread. Apparently a tens of thousands of die hard hockey fans and they still say tons of stupid shit about the Blackhawks and have since I started posting here. There’s probably STILL people that think Kane played most of his career on Toews’ line. All because they’ll see a couple Hawks regular season games every now and then and they think they know what they’re talking about.