Kindl, Lee, Bourdon, Pokulok?

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  1. august

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    In which order do you take them?
    (Jakub Kindl, Brian Lee, Luc Bourdon, Sasha Pokulok)

    How can you compare them to NHL player?

    Thanks
     
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    Lee-all around future star
    Bourdon-tough as nails-excellent potential
    Pokulok-never know with the size-might be a bust
    Kindl-so much talent-yet hasnt pulled head out of ***

    Lee-Housley
    Bourdon-Stevens
    Pokulok-Hal Gill
    Kindl- Hamrlik
     
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    Bourdon
    Lee
    Kindl
    Pokulok
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Lee - Rafalski
    Bourdon - Foote
    Kindl - Niinimaa
    Pokulok - Hal Gill
     
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    maybe it's just me but i wouldn't call housley an all around star

    offensive star, yes...all around? meh
     
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    Bourdon

    Lee
    Kindl
    Pokulok
     
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    ur kidding right?

    in 62 gms last year he managed 3 goals and 11 assists for 14 pts, with 92 PIMS
    this year in 16 gms, hes gotten 3 goals and 12 assists for 15 pts and 42 PIMS

    the kid has improved drastically offensively and physically. hes got the 2nd worst plus minus on the team, yet 12 guys are a minus while barely many are a 0 or a plus. Hes been playing against teams top lines for the most part i hear and we drafted him based on his offensive upside. He might even earn a good look to get signed and play in Grand Rapids next year if his progress continues. I got no idea where your getting your information from, besides his plus minus is the only thing that needs to be fixed, IMHO his head is FAR out of his ***
     
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    again i will say, kindl-needs to pull head out of a$$. the guy has no heart, and looks clueless most nights. I am glad to see the guy is starting to put up career minor league numbers. he has miles to go before he gets any looks from anyone above the echl level.

    I compared Lee to Housley for offense only, Lee is a better defender, but really couldnt think of someone with that much upside offensively, and pretty solid with the d work to compare to. I saw Rafalski, but thats not even close. Maybe a young Brian Leetch would be more in order for Lee.

    Lee




    Bourdon
    Pokulok
    Kindl
    more appropriate now
     
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    Lee is 6'3 he will be more physical then Rafalski. He is very much an anomoly as not many people have had the chance to watch him until this year. I had the pleasure of takeing in a UNH ND game and man was I impressed. He has incredible puck poise, he has soft hands and he is smooth as silk. He also gets his shot off in a hurry. He isnt going to destroy anyone with a big open ice hit like Bourdon but you will also not see him get beat. He has a very active stick and is very mobile. He actually reminds me of a more mobile rangy Redden.

    Id be surprised if Johnson QB's the pp over Lee at the WJC.

    I dont think we will see who the better player is Lee or Bourdon until years down the road.

    This could be very similiar to the Redden Jovanovski comparison ironically Redden and Lee belong to the sens and Jovo and Bourdon play for the Canucks.

    My final rankings.

    Bourdon/Lee
    Kindl
    Pokulok
     
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    Bourdon is clearly the best of this group.

    George McPhee compared Pokulok to former Ranger dman Ron Greschner. Thta is a heck of complement. Pokulok is a dding a mean brand to his game this year. With his size and skating ability I'm going to put him behind Bourdon.

    Brian Lee-I have not seen him in prson, but he seemed to be a reach. He seems to posses alot of skills. Like Valabik, taken too high.

    Jakub Kindl-Toolkit to excel. Does he have the heart?
     
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    Lee was expected to go around #15 so he wasn't taken too high. I don't see how he's a reach. He's gone into North Dakota and looked great on the blueline. We'll see how he does at the WJC's this year. The Sens had him rated 4th in the draft and I'll trust their scouts.
     
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    I love how you say that Bourdon is clearly the best out of the group when you haven't even seen Lee play.
     
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    I doubt he's seen any of the defensemen in question play, especially Pokulok. I know I don't get to catch too many Cornell games........... I have read quite a bit about Sasha's play this year, and if I could use one word it would be inconsistent. He has a ways to go before being in Bourdon or Lee's class IMO. Lee is a great talent, no doubt about that. Not a banger, but exceptional with his positioning and stick, and ELITE offensive skills. He and Johnson on the point on the U.S. PP with Schremp, Kessel, and Chris Bourque? YOWZA!
     
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    This is exactly the right word to describe Sasha, atleast in the offensive zone. One minute he'll stickhandle through three defenders half his size and the next he'll fumble a pass with no oposing player within 7 feet. Saying, he cleary has the skills to be a very good NHL player. Great size, nice skater, great shot, pretty good vision and a good stickhanlder when he wants to be. He's also been noticiably physical this year, almost two much so.

    I said that inconsistent is the proper word to describe Sasha's offensive play this year. I do, however, think that he's been relativly steady defensivly. I can't really remember seing him get flat out beat so far this year, though he does need to be more careful with some of his passes.
     
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    Agree, and how is Boudon an Adam Foote? His offensive game is far better.
     
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    Have you even seen him play this year? Didn't think so. And 15 pts in 16 games is hardly minor league numbers for a D-man.
     
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    Maybe, but Foote is better offensively than what the first poster said... (Scott Stevens)
     
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    Kindl
    Bourdon
    Lee
    Pokulok.
     
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    Um, no.

    Stevens was a much better offensive defenceman in his prime.
     
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    Thanks for the scouting, Xander. I haven't had a chance to catch any Cornell games this season.
     
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    Fully agreed.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAH.

    but seriously, right now Kindl and Pokulok aren't in Bourdon's and Lee's Class. Bourdon could have played in the NHL this year, and Lee is making a hge impact in college, Kindl is rough, to say the least, and Pokulok is way way way behind Bourdon and Lee in development.

    Who will make the NHL first? Bourdon, who will have the biggest impact? Either Lee or Bourdon, too early to tell on that one. With people comparing and 18 year old Bourdon to a 19-20 year old Phanuef, noone in their right mind could put Kindl over him.
     
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    Bourdon- big defenseman with all-around great potential
    Lee- A bit of a wildcard as all kids from high-school are, and it is too early in the college season to tell if he's a bust or not, but nevertheless, he shows very good potential.



    Kindl- Nowhere in the ballpark of the first two
    Pokulok- see Kindl

    Bourdon- Mccabe
    Lee- Jovanovski
    Kindl- Rathje
    Pokulok- Poti
     
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    Lee-Jovo-cop???? I really dont see it. Lets not even get into the lack of physical play and size that Lee has compared to Jovo, but Lee is a much more offensive minded player then Jovo.

    Kindl-Rathje I really dont see that either. Kindl is a fast skilled d-man who has zero heart, common sense, and has his head is up his a$$. Dont see Rathje as having any of those qualities.

    I can see the Bourdon and Pokulok comparisions, just not the other 2.
     
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