KHL Season 2018/2019

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Since when they have been playing in this new arena? Admittedly, I never watch them either especially at home - it feels like sitting at my place's guestroom. Light is bad and it has the potential to get you depressed even on a beautiful spring day full of energy. Gotta give credit to KHL. For a Russian organization, they are trying really hard to be something good and respectable. Not sure if it has been talked here so far but this season brings a change for playoff system as well... No back-to-back abominations anymore and two conferences play in the same day, which means you could enjoy, say, Avto vs Avangard and then Jokerit vs SKA without having to miss three of four games that are played at the same time.

If CSKA (and other Moscow teams) can permanently find themselves new arenas, then one more major problem becomes history, which is good.
 

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New arena working wonders for them.

Old barn, although full of history, had to go.
Agree, but it might be better. I mean the attendance.

Btw. There should be any old arena in the KHL by 2022-23. Sibir, Avto & Torpedo building new arenas. They play at the worst arenas in the KHL now. Yes, there are Severstal, Vityaz & Neftehimik with small arenas as well. But these teams will not be in the KHL by 2022-23 I believe. The clubs in the East will remain as the only problem, they have new arenas (2000´s), but rather small.
 
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Since when they have been playing in this new arena? Admittedly, I never watch them either especially at home - it feels like sitting at my place's guestroom. Light is bad and it has the potential to get you depressed even on a beautiful spring day full of energy. Gotta give credit to KHL. For a Russian organization, they are trying really hard to be something good and respectable. Not sure if it has been talked here so far but this season brings a change for playoff system as well... No back-to-back abominations anymore and two conferences play in the same day, which means you could enjoy, say, Avto vs Avangard and then Jokerit vs SKA without having to miss three of four games that are played at the same time.

If CSKA (and other Moscow teams) can permanently find themselves new arenas, then one more major problem becomes history, which is good.
CSKA has been playing at this arena since current season. It was a late decision, CSKA decided to move to 12k arena in May or so. The KHL schedule 2018/19 was already completed and the KHL wanted to reveal it.... but had to make new schedule because CSKA changed suprisingly the arena. And the KHL was criticized by fans for late publication of the schedule ...

All, CSKA, Spartak & Dynamo have new arenas. Spartak & CSKA playing at 12k arena we talking about. Dynamo will be at their own 10k arena in Petrovsky park. We will see what will happen to Spartak next season. I am sure the league will not allow the teams to use old CSKA arena or Sokolniky anymore. Not sure about Luzhniky.

Yes, new model of the play-off is a good thing.
 

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I guess I am an old-timer from an uspoiled soviet generation, hard for me to believe, that there would be 3k in a 5.5k arena and then all of a sudden 10-11k in a 12k arena.

I understand amenities, location, service, etc...
 

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Bobkov with 9th consecutive start today. Pretty surprised they are riding him this hard for no real reason, Murygin is a solid goalie (even more so as a backup) and his numbers are actually better than Bobkov's. Hartley is definitely not a fan though, evidently.
 

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Bobkov with 9th consecutive start today. Pretty surprised they are riding him this hard for no real reason, Murygin is a solid goalie (even more so as a backup) and his numbers are actually better than Bobkov's. Hartley is definitely not a fan though, evidently.
Bobkov is probably more of a NA style goalie.
 

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My boy Manukyan with 4 assists today against Kunlun, making him the first Avangard hockey school product to have achieved this at KHL level. Many doubted (and rightly so) because of his relatively small presence but he seems to have found his place in KHL. Hope he'll keep adding more.
 

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It feels like SKA is all quantity over quality this season. They have a lot of players but not many of them are game-breakers. Yakupov is lost, Datsyuk looks old, Kuzmenko isn't there yet, Prokhorkin got injured.. Hersley is having and amazing season but the rest is pretty forgettable.

My boy Manukyan with 4 assists today against Kunlun, making him the first Avangard hockey school product to have achieved this at KHL level. Many doubted (and rightly so) because of his relatively small presence but he seems to have found his place in KHL. Hope he'll keep adding more.

Has to be noted this came after 12-game pointless drought.
 

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I guess I am an old-timer from an uspoiled soviet generation, hard for me to believe, that there would be 3k in a 5.5k arena and then all of a sudden 10-11k in a 12k arena.

I understand amenities, location, service, etc...
Location is a huge issue for Moscow. The huge city has many people not willing to leave their ususal routes in life. Then there is the fan base distrubution. It is rather strange. Not scattered over the city like one could expect. Then the Moscovites are spoiled as f....It is just true. The old barn was obvously not fancy enough for many. Obviously the formerly known as the VTB arena is a better location on many levels. The arena is reachable and a fine venue from my experience at WHC.
 

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Bobkov with 9th consecutive start today. Pretty surprised they are riding him this hard for no real reason, Murygin is a solid goalie (even more so as a backup) and his numbers are actually better than Bobkov's. Hartley is definitely not a fan though, evidently.
Bobkov speaks English)
 
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Since when they have been playing in this new arena? Admittedly, I never watch them either especially at home - it feels like sitting at my place's guestroom. Light is bad and it has the potential to get you depressed even on a beautiful spring day full of energy. Gotta give credit to KHL. For a Russian organization, they are trying really hard to be something good and respectable. Not sure if it has been talked here so far but this season brings a change for playoff system as well... No back-to-back abominations anymore and two conferences play in the same day, which means you could enjoy, say, Avto vs Avangard and then Jokerit vs SKA without having to miss three of four games that are played at the same time.

If CSKA (and other Moscow teams) can permanently find themselves new arenas, then one more major problem becomes history, which is good.
There is talk about CSKA actually building a new arena for years now. Not an easy task in Moscow. Now they made that wild switch. There is no shortage of arenas in Moscow actually. Dynamo moved to the Megasport and CSKA appropriated the former VTB-arena which was home of Dynamo and renamed it the CSKA-Arena. No idea if they still have plans to build a new one now. It's Spartak now who really needs one. They play some home games at the CSKA-arena which caused some debate, but obviously the attendance is good.

P.S. For a russian org the KHL is fairly ineffective and it's a pain.
 
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CSKA with 6 VHLers on the roster again instead of NT guys. And won 3-0 anyway.

Amur has released Filippi and Kašik for no real reason but it is Amur, after all, nothing too shocking there. Maybe they can actually get some decent replacement for Filippi as well which would work well for them.
 
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Dynamo Moscow finally broke into the play-off territory. Upcoming games in next few days definitely look more forgiving compared to the ones they had in their recent successful run so this might be a good time to cement their existence in top 8 and climb further. I believe they'll want to get 6th place at least in order to avoid CSKA & SKA in the first round. Other than that, "let's make it to the play-off!" doesn't look like a good motivator - given how bad Slovan, Severstal and Minsk are, Dynamo would really have to try hard to miss top 8.
 
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Can anybody tell me what's the problem with Ivan Telegin? I mean he always plays great for team Russia in international games but his stats with CSKA are not that impressive. Is he just being misused or what's up with that?

Other question is do you see any NHL potential in Maione?
 

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Telegin was a defensive forward as long as I remember him and having missed a year of hockey holding out in his early development, kind of sealed his fate.
He is a defensive pk specialist, who has some offensive touch.
 

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Can anybody tell me what's the problem with Ivan Telegin? I mean he always plays great for team Russia in international games but his stats with CSKA are not that impressive. Is he just being misused or what's up with that?

Other question is do you see any NHL potential in Maione?
He has size and speed but his offensive skills are rather poor. Also CSKA plays the kind of hockey in recent years where other than the few top guys nobody is too worried about actually scoring. Someone like Slepyshev, who actually has decent skills, has 10 points in 27 games. Svetlakov has 5 in 21 even though he would be at least 2nd line center on most KHL teams. So it's partially a CSKA thing and partially him not being the most talented guy offensively.

Regarding Maione, he is extremely talented offensively and has great mobility which sets him apart from most of high-scoring KHL Ds who failed in the NHL. And if Yannick Weber has made it as an NHL player, Maione still can make it as well. A team with no real PP specialist on D like Edmonton or Vancouver could so use him. I think at this point it's more of a question if he's willing to take AHL money when he will definitely have very rich KHL offers at the end of the season. Also, it would depend a lot on the organization he goes to, a more conservative coach definitely wouldn't let him play his game and quite likely wouldn't play him at all. But there is still a chance he can make it.
 

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Avto now with 4 losses in last 5 games while Sibir are on a 3-game winning streak. Interesting stuff. No idea how long Kovar will be out for but Avto better get him back as soon as possible. They still have almost 5-game cushion but given how competitive the rest of the division is, dropping down to 2nd place may be quite bad. It may take 40 games to drop from first to second but you might be down to seven from two just in three games with this current table.
 

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Avto now with 4 losses in last 5 games while Sibir are on a 3-game winning streak. Interesting stuff. No idea how long Kovar will be out for but Avto better get him back as soon as possible. They still have almost 5-game cushion but given how competitive the rest of the division is, dropping down to 2nd place may be quite bad. It may take 40 games to drop from first to second but you might be down to seven from two just in three games with this current table.
There are reports Kovar is back within a week or two.
 
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