The article is several days old. The new articles basically say the project is dead. Stay up to date if you want to spread propaganda. They are the laughing stock of all sports fans in Sweden.
I am on Alessandro side here. There are posters who are Russia/KHL haters, but I would not like name them, we all know who I am talking.
European hockey fans should want euro hockey to be as strong as possible. If you want strong league/s you need best possible players and money to pay them. European domestic leagues/clubs have not best players nor money because all best going to NHL. It is not a problem that players going to NHL of course. Problem is that NHL does not pay fair transfer fees for players. Only way how to force NHL to pay fair compensations is if euro hockey clubs are united (including Russia) and have big money. KHL has ambition to unite euro clubs and is possible to lure big money to league. And what Euros has been doing? They fight against KHL (instead of cooperation with KHL) - CHL and Euro Club Association are proofs of such behavior. This euro federations attitude if cancer of euro hockey.
Man, you and I might be loving Russia, but many in Europe don't. Moreover, NHL and KHL are not the same and will never be... Because NA is a huge place with only TWO similar countries. On the other hand, Europe has too many currencies, traditions, local things going on etc. Any Canadian team would be happy to join NHL but this is not the case in Europe. Some simply want to keep it local, some don't like the idea of being pioneered by Russia etc.
The fact is Baltics are on tenterhooks because they are scared of a Russian invasion. When this is how it looks, people in Narva for example are fearful of a sudden attack and the other parts of continent are very skeptical of Russia in any way, how can you expect them to leave their already-established leagues and put themselves under Russian wings? I won't discuss if their fears are relevant or if Russian-haters spread those news; I just write this to make you aware of how it looks like in "out of Russia". The simple facts we have here,
1. Russia is not in a position to be unifying, cementing power for Europe. Not in hockey, not in anything else. Well, I am actually wrong with that: They unify countries who are scared of them, but not in a way Russia favours.
2. Comparing NHL to KHL is OK hockey-wise but putting them in a race with each other won't help KHL. Believe me, we can keep having GREAT European local leagues with a strong Kontinental Hockey League. I mean, you don't need to snatch one or two teams from everywhere to make KHL viable. CHL and others have their reasons to oppose KHL, it's not like they don't want hockey to grow.
The thing is, Russia tailored this "big brother" role in Europe herself and now wants to sell it via KHL but people are rightly skeptical. For example, look at this article,
http://isnblog.ethz.ch/intelligence...ties-in-the-region-in-a-comparative-context-2
As I said, I am not interested if this is true or not; but this is what Swedes read or hear. Do you think they care about "being the best hockey team" in the world thanks to Russia? I would love hockey to be a brotherly thing for Europe to bring everyone together but no, in this continent, this will probably never ever happen. It's too much of a wishful thinking.
1. I believe vorky is from Slovakia.
2.Estonians are paranoic about "reds" but Narva is an ethnic russian city basically. And yeah, this paranoia is promoted by their governments.
3.This continent is polarizing and rather fast. And the border is not going to be national like in the past, but ideological. Traditionalists and conservatives are drifting towards Russia while liberals and neocons are drifting towards globalists(EU, NATO, USA).
So it can change in future.
But right now, yeah, espesciallly with all of this "save Ukraine!" drama and "Putin=Hitler, ie absolute evil" narrative it's a hard task to create a succesful project, espescially in Sweden, where people are very trusting to their media and goernment.
http://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/wennerholm/2016/04/putin-portade-crowns/
Apparantly Putin said no to the Clowns, I mean Crowns project. Hahahaha.
Show is over folks, nothing to see here.
That's what I was talking about.
It's easy to see from your post that you dislike KHL and you actually care if there will be a swedish team in KHL.
P.S. Show is not over, it's just the beginning.
That's what I was talking about.
It's easy to see from your post that you dislike KHL and you actually care if there will be a swedish team in KHL.
P.S. Show is not over, it's just the beginning.
Opinions aside, what's the real update with crowns. Some people keep saying the bid has already been dropped and others are still giving reports. Not your opinion, what is the actual news on it? What's the actual update?The clownish Crowns' show is over. And the show for a Swedish KHL team is over until an existing Swedish club will pressure SIHA enough to let them go, which will not happen in the next couple of years. KHL asked SIHA about AIK, they said no. KHL asked AIK directly, they said no as well. And AIK is the only Swedish team that could be close to join the KHL, unless they get so desperate they try to get Hammarby.
I'm happy that the Crowns' project never went off. It was a disaster from the beginning and the people running the project were clearly not capable of doing it.
Opinions aside, what's the real update with crowns. Some people keep saying the bid has already been dropped and others are still giving reports. Not your opinion, what is the actual news on it? What's the actual update?
Opinions aside, what's the real update with crowns. Some people keep saying the bid has already been dropped and others are still giving reports. Not your opinion, what is the actual news on it? What's the actual update?
Putin and KHL has said they need Swedish hockey federation support, and they won't have it.
Yes, Putin has found time for Sweden hockey too while sending mink-like submarines or submarine-like minks to Sweden waters.
Never said that. I am only posting actual stuff: Lev was the best attended team in Prague. Jokerit has a great attendance. Slovan has too. And I'm not even talking about Minsk, Riga, Astana. You can write how many but's you want, but every but you write won't remove even one fan from protocols.
I am fine with everyone who hates/doesn't love/doesn't care about the KHL, but they should admit it.
I don't care about the NHL myself, do you see me posting in the NHL boards about things I don't care? I don't care, thus I don't post.
Are you really from Almaty? Do you live there?
Rather than communication about this Crowns, I would like to see from KHL, news about the Chinese club.
Also, a couple of days ago, there were talks about a second club in Belarus (apparently president Lukashenko, would be open now for this project - if beneficial for Belarus NT)....
Really? News about possibly new teams are always interesting but I am not sure if Belarus can support two KHL-level ice hockey teams. Finding players that are good enough should not be an obstacle but can they fill the arena regularly? Dynamo Minsk is doing great on that aspect but I am not sure if this city is big enough to host two KHL teams. If not Minsk, which city has potential for such a venture? Borisov maybe? I'd be so in for a Dynamo-BATE war in ice hockey as well but that's probably not gonna happen.
Really? News about possibly new teams are always interesting but I am not sure if Belarus can support two KHL-level ice hockey teams. Finding players that are good enough should not be an obstacle but can they fill the arena regularly? Dynamo Minsk is doing great on that aspect but I am not sure if this city is big enough to host two KHL teams. If not Minsk, which city has potential for such a venture? Borisov maybe? I'd be so in for a Dynamo-BATE war in ice hockey as well but that's probably not gonna happen.