Khabibulin

[SniperHF]

Over romanticized by nostalgic Coyotes fans when his replacement (Burke) was better.
But a good 'tender and was glad to have him in the early years here, could have been a lot worse.

Also if we're gonna mention his mask, his nickname is also exceptional

 

[Howie Hodge]

1999–00

Long Beach Ice Dogs

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[Asheville]

Over romanticized by nostalgic Coyotes fans when his replacement (Burke) was better.
But a good 'tender and was glad to have him in the early years here, could have been a lot worse.

Also if we're gonna mention his mask, his nickname is also exceptional

Over romanticized? Khabibulin was superior to Burke during the only season that matters: the playoffs.

 

[SniperHF]

Over romanticized?

Yes? Gonna go ahead and guess I know what's going on around here better. There's a bizarre infatuation with all things surrounding the first 2-3 seasons of the Coyotes among most fans around here when they were mostly overrated or underachieving. Everyone involved has their status inflated with most Coyotes fans for a variety of reasons.

Khabibulin was superior to Burke during the only season that matters: the playoffs.

This team didn't get out of the first round until 2012, I really don't put much weight on their underwhelming 1st rounds of the 90's.
He played great in a couple series and got blown out the building in a another. Not exactly where he built his playoff legacy.

 

[Asheville]

Yes? Gonna go ahead and guess I know what's going on around here better. There's a bizarre infatuation with all things surrounding the first 2-3 seasons of the Coyotes among most fans around here when they were mostly overrated or underachieving. Everyone involved has their status inflated with most Coyotes fans for a variety of reasons.



This team didn't get out of the first round until 2012, I really don't put much weight on their underwhelming 1st rounds of the 90's.
He played great in a couple series and got blown out the building in a another. Not exactly where he built his playoff legacy.

Slight him all you'd like but his 3 first round exits with the Coyotes yielded:

2.60 GAA
91.84 SV%

So he certainly showed up. No romanticizing, but you are certainly a bitter Coyotes fan aiming your blame in the wrong place.

 

[FerrisRox]

Over romanticized? Khabibulin was superior to Burke during the only season that matters: the playoffs.

You thought Khabibulin lost in the first round better than Burke lost in the first round?

 

[FerrisRox]

Slight him all you'd like but his 3 first round exits with the Coyotes yielded:

2.60 GAA
91.84 SV%

So he certainly showed up. No romanticizing, but you are certainly a bitter Coyotes fan aiming your blame in the wrong place.

....And Sean Burke's numbers?

 

[Asheville]

....And Sean Burke's numbers?

2.93 GAA
90.33 SV%

And his career playoff stats (4 additional postseasons) are even worse.

 

[Asheville]

You thought Khabibulin lost in the first round better than Burke lost in the first round?

At least Khabby's numbers indicate he gave his teams a chance. Burke? Not so much.

 

[FerrisRox]

2.93 GAA
90.33 SV%

And his career playoff stats (4 additional postseasons) are even worse.

Looks like a rather marginal difference to me.

 

[quoipourquoi]

At least Khabby's numbers indicate he gave his teams a chance. Burke? Not so much.

Two 5-game playoff series with 3 quality games each series? He gave his teams a chance. His averages look bad because individual blowout losses do more statistical damage than actual damage to the team.

2000
6 GA in Game 1 vs. Colorado
.922 combined in the other 4 games

2002
4 GA in Game 5 vs. San Jose
.921 combined in the other 4 games

 

[Asheville]

Looks like a rather marginal difference to me.

2.60 GAA
91.84 SV%

vs.

2.93 GAA
90.33 SV%

That's a "marginal" separation? LOL

You're clearly seeing what you want to see. Yikes.

 

[Asheville]

Two 5-game playoff series with 3 quality games each series? He gave his teams a chance. His averages look bad because individual blowout losses do more statistical damage than actual damage to the team.

2000
6 GA in Game 1 vs. Colorado
.922 combined in the other 4 games

2002
4 GA in Game 5 vs. San Jose
.921 combined in the other 4 games

"You are what your record says you are." -Bill Parcells

Bend and twist Burke's numbers all you'd like. Still doesn't change his "stats."

 

[FerrisRox]

2.60 GAA
91.84 SV%

vs.

2.93 GAA
90.33 SV%

That's a "marginal" separation? LOL

You're clearly seeing what you want to see. Yikes.

Yes, that's a marginal difference.

 

[Asheville]

Yes, that's a marginal difference.

Uh...no it's not. And I doubt you find another poster in these parts who would back you on that.

 

[FerrisRox]

Uh...no it's not. And I doubt you find another poster in these parts who would back you on that.

The sample size for Sean Burke is ten games of course it's a marginal difference. You're being pedantic.

 

[Asheville]

The sample size for Sean Burke is ten games of course it's a marginal difference. You're being pedantic.

Minutes played for the Coyotes in the playoffs:

Khabibulin: 1,060
Burke: 594

(mod)


Just say you don't like Khabibulin and be done with it.

 

[Admiral Awesome]

He was a better option than Shtalenkov for the Russian team on NHL 2000.

 

[streitz]

Minutes played for the Coyotes in the playoffs:

Khabibulin: 1,060
Burke: 594

(mod)

Just say you don't like Khabibulin and be done with it.

i liked
Khabibulin



on the Jets, but why are you so aggressive when posting about certain players? It's weird lol.

 

[Asheville]

i liked
Khabibulin



on the Jets, but why are you so aggressive when posting about certain players? It's weird lol.

Aggressive? Talk to Ferris. I'm done with this. You have Gretzky 3rd all time. You don't get to determine "weird" LOL

 

[streitz]

Aggressive? Talk to Ferris. I'm done with this. You have Gretzky 3rd all time. You don't get to determine "weird" LOL

Bowman has him 5th.

 

[FerrisRox]

Minutes played for the Coyotes in the playoffs:

Khabibulin: 1,060
Burke: 594

(mod)

Just say you don't like Khabibulin and be done with it.

What am I talking about? I'm talking about a ten game sample size. Was that not clear when I said "ten game sample size?"

What's the point of personally attacking me?

 

[MaxV]

He was a better option than Shtalenkov for the Russian team on NHL 2000.

He refused the call ups to NT because Tikhonov took his OG gold medal.

 

[Admiral Awesome]

He refused the call ups to NT because Tikhonov took his OG gold medal.

Yeah I know, but he was on the team for the video game, I believe. Although now that I think about it, I may have had to add him to the team manually.

 

[Jets4Life]

Can anyone shed light on how he was perceived as a prospect, and early on his in career in Winnipeg? Was he highly touted before coming to North America? In all honestly, I really only remember having formed an opinion of Khabibulin by the time of his hold-out and the potential competition with Burke.

He really came out of nowhere, and had a stellar 1995-96 season for the Jets, and really played well against the Red Wings in the playoffs.