Kevin Hayes vs JT Miller

[Filthy Dangles]

Excluding contracts, who is a more valuable player to have to improve your hockey club.

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[EdJovanovski]

Hayes

 

[tony d]

Miller.

 

[VinikToWinIt]

Bozo

 

[Bourdon]

I mean, Hayes offensive ceiling is basically Miller's floor, and on top of that Miller can also play center and is better at faceoffs.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

JT Miller. The guy does it all: produces, plays a physical two way game, takes faceoffs, kills penalties and plays on the first PP. He’s provided real leadership to the Canucks and has been their most consistent forward night in and night out no matter what line he plays on.

 

[nowhereman]

It was Miller before this season. Now, with the way Miller is playing, it's him by a mile. He's been Vancouver's best player this season.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy, I thought it was Miller but a large contingent of HFNYR seems to think otherwise. Maybe cuz NYR are thin at C...

But yeah the boost Miller gives most teams’ top6 is definitely more valuable than the value Hayes provides by upgrading him as your #2 or 3 center, imo.

 

[UK Canuck]

All I'll say is JT Miller has been our best player this season, not watched any of Philly outside of the games vs us, so I've no idea how Hayes is doing

 

[biturbo19]

I absolutely would've said Hayes prior to this season. But Miller is proving to be that oxymoron "elite supporting player" this year, which he also showed signs of in Tampa.

If i was desperate for somebody to Center a 2nd line...i'd rather bank on Hayes still. But Miller is showing that his ceiling can raise substantially with quality of minutes and linemates. I'm not sure that's the case for Hayes...who feels more like the opposite, where he's got more value as a guy who can raise the level of lesser linemates, but has less "ceiling" value with top flight linemates.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Miller can create offense, Hayes is a non-impact player.

 

[biturbo19]

Miller can create offense, Hayes is a non-impact player.

I feel like it's kinda more like: Hayes is better at creating and driving offense, Miller is the more dynamic player with the higher upside.

 

[Sky04]

Miller easily

 

[VoluntaryDom]

depends how legit miller is this year, but i probably take him regardless

edit: miller has fallen back to earth offensively but still playing well defensively similar to what he did in tampa bay last year. close but miller probably for me.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Bozo passed to the Leafs in front of Vancouver’s empty net and they scored lol

 

[Regal]

Bozo passed to the Leafs in front of Vancouver’s empty net and they scored lol

Overall he's been great this year, but he's made some truly baffling decisions on occasion.

 

[nowhereman]

Bozo passed to the Leafs in front of Vancouver’s empty net and they scored lol

Lol, somebody has an agenda...

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Lol, somebody has an agenda...

Of course he does.

Where have you been?

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

I still say Hayes. I'm not sold that this version of JT Miller is here to stay

both of them disappear come playoff time though.

They have a whopping 7 goals in 101 combined playoff games.

 

[JohnnyBerts]

I still say Hayes. I'm not sold that this version of JT Miller is here to stay

both of them disappear come playoff time though.

They have a whopping 7 goals in 101 combined playoff games.

That's what I would have said too. Miller looks like he's playing out of this world right now. So right now Miller but I can't say with any confidence that this version of Miller is here to stay for seasons to come.

 

[Love]

Miller has been our best forward this season so I can’t not vote for him. He’s an amazing fit with Pettersson.

 

[Machinehead]

Hayes was always better and right now, I'm not changing that based on one half of a season.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Excluding contracts? I take Hayes. Including contracts? Miller all day.

 

[Machinehead]

I mean, Hayes offensive ceiling is basically Miller's floor, and on top of that Miller can also play center and is better at faceoffs.

Completely ahistorical.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I've always thought Miller was underrated, and had the potential to play better than he did with the Rangers. Instead of coaching him into being a better player, AV requested that he be traded at the trade deadline at the last minute, and the Rangers got fleeced by getting Namestnikov instead who isn't close to as good as Miller.

Hayes isn't bad, but Miller's a lot better.