andyJH
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OT: Kevin Bieksa throws a(nother) superman punch
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DL44
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Thing of beauty!
Watched the game he took it to Shaw as well...
Bieksa is having a grumpy year... Grumpy Bieksa is fun to watch Bieksa.
Watched the game he took it to Shaw as well...
Bieksa is having a grumpy year... Grumpy Bieksa is fun to watch Bieksa.
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DL44
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I like Bieksa, but I always found his toughness a bit overrated, especially with regard to fighting. I think someone said he won 80% of his fights on hockeyfights.com? That was surprising to me, unless he was a spot picker.
I think the thing with him is, he is a bit light to be contending with the real tough guys in the NHL. I still remember that time he through down with Ben Eager and EAger picked him up and tossed him around like he was a pillow.
I think the thing with him is, he is a bit light to be contending with the real tough guys in the NHL. I still remember that time he through down with Ben Eager and EAger picked him up and tossed him around like he was a pillow.
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disagree.
been following him since 2005, up until he went to the Ducks, Bieska was always a fighter and was considered the "middle weight champion" in the AHL. He made it to the NHL as a full time dman in 06 07, where he known as an effective defensemen and one hell of a fighter. The "middle weight champion" was no lie as he kept on K O People. Now is he an eforncer, he will fight other middle weights as people his weight class I guess. Kinda like what Rick Rypien did. Bieksa stands at 6'1 less then 200 lbs. He fought so much and won many fights, but the team didn't really want him to be utilized as a fighter, so we brought in Jeff Cowan.
Bieska was always known as a deadly fighter.
I don't think he's a cherry picker. Cherry picker for example will be Matt Martin of the Maple Leafs. Why him? He jumps 5'10 180 lb Troy Stecher. Bieska will never do anything like that he will make sure the other combatant is ready to fight.
Bieksa was a spot-picker in that he didn't like fighting other team's goons ... but I don't think you can really blame a guy his size for that. As opposed to a guy like Brashear who was one of the biggest, best fighters in the league and still a spot-picker.
Funny seeing him superman punch a Flyer again after he nailed Mike Richards in the same way about a decade ago.
Funny seeing him superman punch a Flyer again after he nailed Mike Richards in the same way about a decade ago.
Shareefruck
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I've always felt that Bieksa's reputation as a great fighter for his weight class was entirely warranted, and his reputation as a spot-picker was unwarranted. You're not a spot-picker simply because you don't go above and beyond your weight class. In that sense, virtually everybody is a spot picker.
However, the area in his game that I've always found overstated was his physical presence. He really was never much of a physical presence on the ice, IMO, except on occasions when he became frustrated or the game looked out of reach. And by that point, they looked more like wreckless, out of character temper tantrums than anything useful. I'm not saying he was soft and got pushed around or anything, but he was significantly less physical on the ice than guys like Stanton, Mitchell, or even Rome for example.
It always seemed to me like people just looked at his tough-guy demeanor, willingness to fight, yap, and get into scrums, and automatically assumed that he was a great aggressive physical player or something.
However, the area in his game that I've always found overstated was his physical presence. He really was never much of a physical presence on the ice, IMO, except on occasions when he became frustrated or the game looked out of reach. And by that point, they looked more like wreckless, out of character temper tantrums than anything useful. I'm not saying he was soft and got pushed around or anything, but he was significantly less physical on the ice than guys like Stanton, Mitchell, or even Rome for example.
It always seemed to me like people just looked at his tough-guy demeanor, willingness to fight, yap, and get into scrums, and automatically assumed that he was a great aggressive physical player or something.
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DL44
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Agreed. He was a great fighter and 'good in scrums' but he was never any sort of physically imposing player or bodychecker of any note during play when the clock was actually running. He was basically a mobile skill defender that happened to be good at fighting.
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MS and Shareefruck both with solid points.
Bieksa is a damn good fighter. He also picks his spots (picked them a lot more as a staple in our top four), because why would he take himself out of the game to fight some two minute a night goon?
But his scraps were almost always good for full entertainment value. Love seeing him mad, too. As said above, Grumpy Bieksa is fun to watch.
Also, Radko Gudas is a cheapshot artist, so that adds an element of fun to the scrap.
Bieksa is a damn good fighter. He also picks his spots (picked them a lot more as a staple in our top four), because why would he take himself out of the game to fight some two minute a night goon?
But his scraps were almost always good for full entertainment value. Love seeing him mad, too. As said above, Grumpy Bieksa is fun to watch.
Also, Radko Gudas is a cheapshot artist, so that adds an element of fun to the scrap.
I just counted all of Bieksa fight on hockeyfights.com since 2005/2006. So Regular season and playoffs. I didn't count preseason.
34 W 10 L 6 tie
So let me correct myself. He wins 68 % of his fights and only loses 20% of his fights.
I always wanted to see a Bieksa and Iginla fight. But not going to happen.
34 W 10 L 6 tie
So let me correct myself. He wins 68 % of his fights and only loses 20% of his fights.
I always wanted to see a Bieksa and Iginla fight. But not going to happen.
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Clayton Stoner was with the Ducks last year, and he wore 3. Stoner got picked up by Vegas in the expansion draft, so 3 freed up, and Bieksa took it this year.
Looks much better on ol' KB3.
yup, gonna be that guy. no need for this in hockey anymore. enjoy that concussion.
DL44
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That's the part of Bieksa I really miss!
Looks like he broke a knuckle... too bad.
Adds to their injury woes.. this part i don't care about.
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I disagree. A pissed off in his prime Bieksa is one of the best pound for pound fighters around. Ya he's not a huge guy but his fight card include guys like Wayne Simmonds, BJ Crombeen, Brian Boyle, Jamal Mayers, Barnaby etc. Bieksa doesn't really pick his spots. When he's pissed off, he will fight anyone outside of a guy like Derek Boogaard.
