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Detest for Holland has run in cycles throughout the years. I remember vividly after the 00 and 01 playoff runs that a number of Wings fans clamored for a complete rebuild and for the team to be broken up and a lot of people didn't like Holland and thought he just rode the coattails for the 98 cup run and had no idea what he was doing. Plus, our farm system was garbage. Instead, he went for broke and brought in Hasek, Robitaille and Hull and Olausson and kept all his other old players and won the cup in 02. Stuff like that can't happen today because of the cap system, but if a number of fans got their way back then, the team would have been imploded far before then and started a full rebuild.
I don't know which people you talked to in 01, but few people called for "rebuild"
Wings fans weren't keen on rebuilding with Jari Tolsa and Yuri Butsayev.
In 01, most recognized the need to upgrade our goaltending and that's what we did. And then we got Hull and Robitaille.
After quick playoff exits in 03, 04 and 06 and a very old roster, a number of fans were fed up with Holland again and wanted to tear the whole thing apart again. I doubt anyone actually believed that the Wings would actually be arguably the most successful organization from the 05-06 season to 11-12 with more playoff wins than anyone else and as just one of two teams to make the playoffs each year. After 06, a number of people wanted Datsyuk gone and hated his contract extension. The contract to Kronwall was wildly criticized. Why was Homer brought back again? When will Chelios, Draper, Maltby, etc. be let go? There was debate over re-signing Lidstrom b/c of his cap hit. Why weren't Flip and Hudler immediately given top 6 opportunities? Why weren't they more active in signing FA instead of promoting Franzen and Cleary to more advanced roles? Why was Osgood still on the roster? Why are we still trying a puck possession system when our talent doesn't call for it anymore? Then, after 06, the Wings had the most successful 3 year run than any organization has had in the salary cap era despite not going through a major rebuild and despite a number of controversial moves (like the Datsyuk extension).
The detest for Holland seems to have returned following another 3 year transition period that is similar to the playoff exits that happened in 99-01 and 03-06. In the 2 previous eras, he rebuilt on the fly without tearing it all apart and going with a huge youth movement like the fans would want and he was proven right. We'll see what happens this time around. If a number of fans had their way before, the 02 cup run never would have happened and the the 3 year stretch from 07 to 09 definitely would not have happened. Heck, Datsyuk wouldn't even be here.
Overall, this is a very disingenuous post.
Few people ever want the franchise "blown up."
What people want is change and adaptability.
What people want is our GM to address our needs and allow our talented youngsters the chance to improve our roster -- recognizing that young and inexpensive talent is vital to success in the salary cap era.
After our back-to-back wins, we struggled. Holland made EARTHMOVING decisions... waiving Osgood, trading Kozlov for Hasek, letting Lapointe go, signing Hull and Robitaille. Letting Verbeek, brown and Gill and Gilchrist go. Trading Ward.
The difference between the 01 roster and 02 roster was HUGE.
Out:Kozlov, LaPointe, Ward, Verbeek, Brown, Gilchrist, Gill Osgood
In: Hull, Robitaille, Hasek, Datsyuk, Olausson
And then when we lost in 07--- Despite our best playoff finish in years, Holland recognized chance was necessary.
Out: Lang, Schneider, Williams, Markov. Calder, Bertuzzi,
IN: Rafalski, Stuart, Kopecky, Drake, Downey, McCarty, Helm
Change is necessary. Improvement is necessary.
And with that, take a look at this year's out in
Out: Lidstrom, Stuart, Holmstrom, Hudler, MacDonald
IN: Coloaicovo, Brunner, Smith, Sammy, Gustavsson
A whole hellivalot has to go right for this year's IN to be better than the Out