Ken Holland Appreciation Thread

[Stoneman89]

Nice work from Mr. Holland's Opus. Very little to work with in terms of cap room, and not a whole lot to give up other than that 1st rounder, which he fortunately kept.

At least it will put all the whining on here that he's not doing anything to rest.

 

[redgrant]

Happy with all of Holland's moves except one.

Would say it would have been better off not signing Kassian until after seeing how AA Ennis etc pan out.

Right now we could be looking at paying Kassian 3.2 million to be a bottom 6 player.

 

[Wewillrise]

He just makes smart moves, at his first presser he talked about stability. The guys is a rock, a f***ing rock star if you ask me.

 

[Skolman]

Happy with all of Holland's moves except one.

Would say it would have been better off not signing Kassian until after seeing how AA Ennis etc pan out.

Right now we could be looking at paying Kassian 3.2 million to be a bottom 6 player.

This is my only complaint as well, but man I love Kenny.

Paying Kass 3.2 mil to play in the bottom-6 isn't the worst thing in the world, with his toughness and skillset.

It feels good to finally have a competent GM.

 

[edmoil3]

JP is not going anywhere, he either sits out or he plays in an oiler uniform and make himself useful again.

Ahuh

 

[Skolman]

JP is not going anywhere, he either sits out or he plays in an oiler uniform and make himself useful again.

He will get dealt this summer, most likely at the draft. Bank on it

 

[ThePhoenixx]

He will get dealt this summer, most likely at the draft. Bank on it

Doubt it.

I think he will need one more year in Europe. His value can go higher if he keeps improving. I guess he could quit trying...but then I can only guess that would make Holland even more patient.

 

[The Safe Play]

He will get dealt this summer, most likely at the draft. Bank on it

Yeah I'll be surprised if Holland doesn't use JP to recoup some draft picks.

 

[bellagiobob]

Doubt it.

I think he will need one more year in Europe. His value can go higher if he keeps improving. I guess he could quit trying...but then I can only guess that would make Holland even more patient.

Does anyone know if he’s taking English lessons, or is the year back home basically making his English obsolete?

 

[bobbythebrain]

Love Holland, but hopefully that Kass contract doesnt hurt us....and 2x 2nds for AA is dicy

 

[BlackDogg]

yah the two seconds for AA seems like overkill right now. I knew the guy was fast but that's about it.

 

[Cloned]

yah the two seconds for AA seems like overkill right now. I knew the guy was fast but that's about it.

Speaking as someone who works on the occasional Sunday, that’s blasphemy

 

[BlackDogg]

Speaking as someone who works on the occasional Sunday, that’s blasphemy

Maybe he's just fasting . It is Lent.

 

[Cloned]

Maybe he's just fasting . It is Lent.

Makes sense.

 

[replacement]

yah the two seconds for AA seems like overkill right now. I knew the guy was fast but that's about it.

2 2nds is a song. That's not much to give up at all for a 25 year old 30 goal scorer with team control. If he didn't have question marks, he'd be an easy 1st rounder at the deadline. If he doesn't work out as a top 6 option? Well, you took a shot. As Holland said, no risk no gain. Not everything works out perfectly, but you have to take a shot. This gamble didn't even cost much. If it doesn't work out, AA still has value around the league.

3 games on a new team, playing against elite competition, in a very tight playoff race, is really not the best sample for any player. So, it's also not worth evaluating the transaction with that sample. If he was a rental maybe you look at a shorter time span, but he's not. Give it a season. We'll see how it works out.

 

[fresh meat]

2 2nds is a song. That's not much to give up at all for a 25 year old 30 goal scorer with team control. If he didn't have question marks, he'd be an easy 1st rounder at the deadline. If he doesn't work out as a top 6 option? Well, you took a shot. As Holland said, no risk no gain. Not everything works out perfectly, but you have to take a shot. This gamble didn't even cost much. If it doesn't work out, AA still has value around the league.

3 games on a new team, playing against elite competition, in a very tight playoff race, is really not the best sample for any player. So, it's also not worth evaluating the transaction with that sample. If he was a rental maybe you look at a shorter time span, but he's not. Give it a season. We'll see how it works out.

No kidding. Give the guy some time. He's also likely not 100% as he got banged up in the Vegas game.

We saw how wrong certain posters were about Yamo when they jumped to conclusions on a small sample size.

 

[Mr Positive]

No kidding. Give the guy some time. He's also likely not 100% as he got banged up in the Vegas game.

We saw how wrong certain posters were about Yamo when they jumped to conclusions on a small sample size.

I've noticed that with him and McDavid, McDavid's passes are often not spot on, like he wasn't expecting AA to be as fast as he is. You have to think that they will be dyanmite but it will take a little time.

But it is the wrong time of year for experiments. I get that. But I don't think it would take a ton of time.

 

[Mr Positive]

also, I could state the obvious, that the kid has 2 points in 3 games. Not exactly a slump

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Thank you for taking the best part of this team, the piece de resistance, the oh-so-beautiful yet lethally and deadly powerplay and making it even better.

Thank you for not making any dumbass trades.

Thank you for not overpaying any single player (other than Mikey but even then that was only a $1.5M 1-year contract).

I never got a chance to see that 80's team live in action. Sure I was alive, but I was only a snotbag preschooler at the time.

Thank you for giving me a chance to see that 80's team live in action today. I look forward to seeing the team win (or loose) every game 7-5.

 

[Aerchon]

Thank you for taking the best part of this team, the piece de resistance, the oh-so-beautiful yet lethally and deadly powerplay and making it even better.

Thank you for not making any dumbass trades.

Thank you for not overpaying any single player (other than Mikey but even then that was only a $1.5M 1-year contract).

I never got a chance to see that 80's team live in action. Sure I was alive, but I was only a snotbag preschooler at the time.

Thank you for giving me a chance to see that 80's team live in action today. I look forward to seeing the team win (or loose) every game 7-5.

Interesting take. I agree we are a significantly more offensively talented team than last year and Holland managed it very cheaply.

Unfortunately it may turn out to be more like winning/losing 4-3 regularly with a chance that losing is the majority. We won't be averaging 6 GF and 6 GA next year.

Tippett was Holland's best move last year while he bought/retained/bargain binned quantity over quality. Tippett got the absolute most out of his players special teams and clung on for dear life 5v5.

If anything the chance that Barrie will improve our PP is unlikely as it was nigh historical.

This year Holland has added talent and I really wonder if Tippett is the right coach to get the most out of a 3 scoring lines team. I also believe by adding Barrie (RD), Puljujarvi (RW), and Turris (RC) all very good PP options... He will most likely have to drastically change the PP to get those players involved more.

We are still a bad team 5v5 and there is only so much room for growth on the PP and only so much time to go around.

But it should certainly be a interesting and hopefully exciting/good year for the Oilers.

 

[Skolman]

He will get dealt this summer, most likely at the draft. Bank on it

Solid prediction Skolman, what a dummy.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Solid prediction Skolman, what a dummy.

At least unlike certain media personalities on Twitter you're owning it

 

[GOilers88]

In typical Oilers fashion I'm sure this will come back to bite me somehow but I have to throw some more props to the man for this off-season.

He seems to know a thing or two about building a roster around existing elite talent.

 

[Pointteen]

This is my only complaint as well, but man I love Kenny.

Paying Kass 3.2 mil to play in the bottom-6 isn't the worst thing in the world, with his toughness and skillset.

It feels good to finally have a competent GM.

Good teams have an expensive player or two. Rather Overpay Kass than take a risk on someone similar to him.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Neither Puljujarvi nor Yamamoto are tracking towards bust status.

A large selection of oiler fans are some of the most critical I've ever seen.

How many Oilers have a tenure of 5 years let alone since the decade of darkness started. We can't blame this group for past failures

Lots of Debbie Downers and Chicken Littles
U should save this post. I predict good numbers for Puju and Yama. Todd MacLellan was an idiot